Genealogy Chat

Good thinking Sue and Rose,

Thanks both and it seems a good avenue to go down,

Joe.

Joe, i too would go for that death cert for Anthony, as your mum has a couple of possible causes of death if one of them matches the cause on the cert' it will at least mean you are sure of area.

edit, and if that death is correct, the corresponding birth cert will have mother's name even if the death cert doesnt?

Hi Joe
Sorry but nothing is jumping out at me .

I would get the death cert for Anthony J ,that I would think would give you his mothers name.
Sue

Edite
I think Rose has the most likely one one page one

Thanks for that Susan, but he had no middle name and Brentford takes it off the radar for him.

is there any way of finding out if the mother's name at his death in Conway is the same as on the birth reg, ( Lee) in Manchester?\>

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Anthony J Morris
Name: Anthony J Morris
Birth Date: abt 1938
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Conway
Registration County: Caernarvonshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 479

This looks like his birth and death rego.
I know it was posted before,but it is a matter of trail and error.
Sue

Susan

William would be VERY strange indeed, as in the 1911 census he is clearly listed as Thomas Morris, and his older brother was William.

Hmmm....just when it seemed promising.... :-)

Susan, this is ALL I want to do! :-)

Find a marriage for Thomas Morris to a woman with the same maiden name as the one for Lilian's birth!

Pollypoppet found the Bradshaw one above, and she's right that they could have married in Llandudno and then come back to her parents for Lilian's birth in Wigan, but it's not satisfying is it?

You just wish sometimes these older generations had been more considerate of us future ancestry hunters when living their lives and deciding where to marry and have babies! ;-)


The hunt goes on for Lilian then, I will go and check your Richards lead and have a nosey.

My Mum said that after little Anthony died as a baby , his mother ran away in grief and shock and wasn't heard of again. My Mum's Auntie told her as a little girl that she had lain on him in bed and smothered him. My Nana told my Mum he had been accidentally dropped into a scalding bath.

It all starts to sound a bit macarbre. :S

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Lilian I Morris
Name: Lilian I Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Richards
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1932
Registration district: Wrexham
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 331

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Anthony J Morris
Name: Anthony J Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Richards
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1936
Registration district: Swansea
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1184

I know they are in two dif places in Wales but Now if we can put a marriage together ???

Hi Joe

I have just looked in a map book and it says

Llandudno is in Conwy there is no A ,it is in North Wales

Sue

Edit
What the map says and other sites are completely dif

Several names and leads are popping up, but I think I may be looking in the wrong places -

Can someone tell me please, which district/ county would Llandudno have come under between 1925 and 1940?

Is Conway the right place to look ?

This davies name is here again..

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Anthony Morris
Name: Anthony Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Davies
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1938
Registration district: Wrexham
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 354

Sounds promising....Yes , Lily could be a second name...

I 'll ask if Anthony died as a baby , if they know.

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Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)
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Morris Anthony J 0 Conway 11b 479

??? just wondering?

Births Mar 1938 (>99%)

Morris Anthony J Lee Manchester N. 8d 761


Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)

Morris Anthony J 0 Conway

No Lilian to tie in but there is a Valerie L ( maybe known by second name?)
Births Sep 1935 (>99%)

Morris Valerie L Lee Conway 11b 607

BUT no marriage that matches

My Mum said that they had another child apart from Lily, a son Anthony who died sometime between 1930 and 1950.

Rose, that's intersting and possible as you say.

Awaiting the word of mater...

I guess a marriage cert. would prove it...

Thanks for the help.

Joe, Possibly Margaret's family was in Wigan and she went to mum's for birth...would not be unusual for that to happen, and there are several possible margaret A Bradshaws born in Wigan that could be her, but I can't see any Conway area.

Thanks all,

Hi Susan , I will ask my Mum but I think not.

This Conway marriage to Bradshaw could be possible,

though Lily then being born in Wigan would be a bit odd, as all our

family concentrated around Manchester central, North and South....

I will ask my Mum....

Hi Joe

Did Lillian have any siblings that you could name please.

Sue