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bailey /mcdowell /lutman

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joysie4

joysie4 Report 11 Sep 2010 21:13

may louise bailey b 1885 portsmouth m edmund mcdowell 1905 he was born 1879 devon died 1925 portsmouth she died 1960 portsmouth

then she married harry lutman 1929 he was born 1884 died 1952 portsmouth

any help appreciated



did they have any children

Joyce

tempest

tempest Report 11 Sep 2010 21:20

pm of some possible children of May Louise Bailey and Harry Lutman sent

joysie4

joysie4 Report 11 Sep 2010 21:39

Tempest

I think may was to old at 51 to have more children funny the surnames are the same thanks anyhow

Joyce

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 11 Sep 2010 23:54

There is also a May in the household although you will credits to view tranhscripts

HOUSEHOLD MCDOWELL EDMUND M 1903 8 Portsmouth Hampshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Sep 2010 00:47

1881

William H. MC DOWELL Head M Male 34 Devonport, Devon, England Asst Boiler Maker
Edith MC DOWELL Wife M Female 35 Penryn, Cornwall, England
Elizh. MC DOWELL Daur Female 12 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Alfred MC DOWELL Son Male 10 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Wm. MC DOWELL Son Male 8 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Emily MC DOWELL Daur Female 6 Devonport, Devon, England Scholar
Edmund MC DOWELL Son Male 2 Devonport, Devon, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 41 Duke Street
Census Place Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341531
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2207 / 3
Page Number 1

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Sep 2010 00:48


Edmund McDowell Compact Disc #130 Pin #1226180 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: Dec 1879


Death: 2 Jan 1925

Royal Hospital

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Parents
Father: William Henry McDowell Disc #130 Pin #1226079
Mother: Editha Harriet Rundle Disc #130 Pin #1226176

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Other Event(s)
Boardr: 1891
14 Union Place

tempest

tempest Report 12 Sep 2010 12:47

do you know where May and Edmund were in 1911 or Edmund's occupation? This seems to be the closest I can find, although Edmund's wife is Mabel

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MCDOWELL, Edmund
Address: 14 Devizes Road Salisbury

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born

MCDOWELL, Edmund Head Married M 28 1883 Baker Journeyman Devon Devonport
MCDOWELL, Mabel Wife Married7 years F 26 1885 Hants Havant
MCDOWELL, Maisie Daughter Dau F 5 1906 Hants Southsea
REYNOLDS, Percy Boarder Married M 30 1881 Jobmaster Hants Havant
REYNOLDS, Blanche Boarder Married9 years F 29 1882 Hants Havant
REYNOLDS, Owen Boarder M 8 1903 Hants Havant
REYNOLDS, Reginald Boarder M 5 1906 Hants Southsea
LUSH, Minnie Visitor Single F 16 1895 Hants Gosport
LUSH, Leslie Boarder Single F 16 1895 Wilts Salisbury

this is incorrectly transcribed it should say REYNOLDS, Leslie Boarder Single M 3 months 1895 Wilts Salisbury.

Also Leslie, Reginald and Owen were filled in as "son" and then crossed out and "border" written above it so possibly sons of Percy and Blanche


looking for a 1902 marriage of Blanche and Percy Reynolds, I found

>>>Blanche Susannah Bailey 1902 Portsmouth (1900 Onw) Hampshire
George Bedford 1902 Portsmouth (1900 Onw) Hampshire
Elizabeth Chambers 1902 Portsmouth (1900 Onw) Hampshire
>>>Percy James Reynolds 1902 Portsmouth (1900 Onw)Hampshire

although they are listed as borders, could Blanche and May/Mabel be sisters?

joysie4

joysie4 Report 12 Sep 2010 20:37

Ann Tempest Paula sorry been out all day

I am confused now with all this information i am no good with censuses so i dont know whos who could someone pm me with the correct family also dates why do you say edmund married a mabel ??
i am wondering if ive got it all wrong now
the 1881 census is correct

many thanks

Joyce

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Sep 2010 21:12

The 1891 census shows May with her parents in Havant.
She does have a sister Blanch.
1891
Name: May Bailey
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Bailey
Mother's Name: Emma Bailey
Gender: Female
Where born: Havant, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Havant
Ecclesiastical parish: St Faith
Town: Waterlooville
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Bailey 48
Emma Bailey 41
Blanch Bailey 16 ...<<
Alfred Bailey 14
May Bailey 6 ...<<

Gwyn


joysie4

joysie4 Report 12 Sep 2010 22:28

Gwyn

Yes the chidren are correct for john and emma

but i have three other children john b 1872 nellie 1881 daughter 1871 do you think they died young
many thanks

Joyce

joysie4

joysie4 Report 12 Sep 2010 23:04

tempest

in your reply about edmund marrying a mabel
i see edith died 1881 so its possible he remarried

what is this edmund m 28 1883 birth date ?? as iv e got him born 1879

do you know mabels maiden name

is reynolds and rush borders then

many thanks its getting a bit clearer now

Joyce

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Sep 2010 23:16

From freebmd site

Marriages Mar 1905

BAILEY May Louise ..Portsmouth 2b 667
McDOWELL Edmund ..Portsmouth 2b 667

Gwyn