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Warren
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25 Aug 2010 22:57 |
I was hoping that someone might be able to tell me what is going on.
I am trying to trace back through my tree. I have an ancestor (b1870) in the 1911 census, with his family. He's also there on the 1901. Him, his wife and his eldest child. Then suddenly he's gone. No mention of him in ANY of the earlier census's.
Any ideas why he doesn't make an appearance until he's 31 years of age?
All the best Warren
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2010 23:01 |
Lots of reasons including he's there but you just can't find him! Why not post the details and we can have a look? Jan
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Warren
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25 Aug 2010 23:24 |
That is very kind.
Well His name is Christopher Andrews born on, or very close to 1870. The 1911 census says he was born in Merysingth, S Wales? I have Googled this place but nothing comes up. In 1911 he is living in Balsall Heath Bham. His wife is called Florence (b 1872 in Dorset), and they have (according to the 1911 census) children called Florence, Mabel, Christopher, Herbert, Winifred.
In the 1901 census he's also at Balsall Heath (though a different address), with his wife, Florence, and their eldest daughter Florence. Now It says his birth place is Aberystuiyth, Wales. I think this is a mis-spelling (should be Aberystwyth.
Try as I might I cannot find any mention of him in any earlier census's.
Any help would be very much appreciated
Kind Regards Warren Andrews
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2010 23:31 |
Just putting 1911 in full for info:
ANDREWS, Christopher Head Married M 41 1870 Electrical Engineer's Driller Merysingth S Wales VIEW ANDREWS, Florence Wife Married 14 years F 39 1872 Sherborne Dorset VIEW ANDREWS, Florence Daughter F 13 1898 Warwickshire Balsall Heath Birm VIEW ANDREWS, Mabel Daughter F 10 1901 Warwickshire Balsall Heath Birm VIEW ANDREWS, Christopher Son M 9 1902 Warwickshire Balsall Heath Bham VIEW ANDREWS, Herbert Son M 6 1905 Warwickshire Balsall Heath Bham VIEW ANDREWS, Winifred Daughter F 4 1907 Warwickshire Balsall Heath Bham VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17900 Reference: RG14PN17900 RG78PN1092 RD383 SD2 ED16 SN141 Registration District: Kings Norton Sub District: Balsall Heath Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Balsall Heath Address: 22 Oldfield Road Birmingham County: Worcestershire
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2010 23:33 |
What about this, in view of location?
1871 England Census
Name: Christopher Andrews Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederic Mother's Name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: N Wales, Denbighshire, Wales Civil parish: Kings Norton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
Frederic Andrews 30 Caroline Andrews 35 Louisa Andrews 10 Amy Andrews 7 Frederic Andrews 5 Christopher Andrews 2 Ellen Nebbia 24 Martha Lean 59 Elizabeth Jones 15
1881 England Census
Name: Christopher Andrews Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Chas Mother's Name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: Denbeigh, Pembrokeshire, Wales Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: Angelina St 5 CT 4 H
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend
Frederick Chas Andrews 40 Caroline Andrews 45 Amy Florence Pee 17 Frederick Wm Andrews 15 Christopher Andrews 11 William Pee 23
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brummiejan
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25 Aug 2010 23:37 |
If you wish to be sure, this is almost certainly his marriage:
Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%) Andrews Christopher King's N. 6c 471 Hamblin Florence King's N. 6c 471
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jeannie
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26 Aug 2010 08:30 |
i could not resist, what a great surname.
Marriages Jun 1880 Andrews Amy King's N. 6c 512 Pee William King's Norton 6c 512
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brummiejan
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26 Aug 2010 11:47 |
I agree - excellent name. Double-checked the image as I assumed it was a mis-transcription, but it seems not! Ja
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Warren
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26 Aug 2010 22:10 |
That is very very kind of you to reply like this.
I did come across this a while ago, but must admit that I felt unsure....
1871 England Census
Name: Christopher Andrews Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederic Mother's Name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: N Wales, Denbighshire, Wales Civil parish: Kings Norton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
Mainly because of the birth place (N Wales). Because in the 1911 census it stated that he was born in South Wales? That's whay is confusing me a little. What do you think? Also I don't understand where the Pee came from!!!
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brummiejan
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26 Aug 2010 22:13 |
Warren, the above Christopher moved away from Wales as a small child so there might be some confusion with his birthplace for that reason. I suggest you get his marriage cert to check his father's name. Mr. Pee married the Amy Andrews above, Christopher's sister! Jan
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Warren
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26 Aug 2010 22:36 |
Ahhh I see. I will get his cert yes. And thank you again. Between asking about Mr Pee and your quick reply, I realized that he must have married Amy Andrews when she was 16 and he was 24. Perhaps he had to marry her (is you know what I mean)! Both were living at her parents home.
btw. I have 2 GR accounts. One for my adopted family (I am a platinum member) and the other for my bio family (Andrews). Do you think it may be possible to swap the platinum status over to my bio family account? This would be great if possible as I could then share trees and get hot matches! Have you heard of this happening before,? I cant really afford 2 paid accounts :-(
Warren
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brummiejan
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27 Aug 2010 10:59 |
You could try contacting Genes - contact details under "help" above.
Andrew, my own advice (others might disagree) is to have just one paid account. You can have more than one free account also for other family trees. I would let one of them lapse.
Why have you got the platinum account, can I ask? The general consensus among members on here is that it works best to have the basic account and then subscribe to Ancestry or FMP for census reports, later BMD's etc. Not sure what the Platinum account has to offer.
Jan
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