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I am trying to find the birth of an Edith Blacklock my g grandmother.

Birth 16 Feb 1891 / Death 1 May 1974 in Newcastle On Tyne
Married Robert Bradbury 1918 in Newcastle on Tyne

I have the original death cert / but cannot find a birth?
Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Right quarter,wrong year and place but worth looking at.

Births Jun 1892
Blacklock Edith W. Derby 8b 397

Have you found her on census for place of birth?

What is her fathers name on the marriage cert.?

1901 for that 1892 birth entry.

BLACKLOCK, William Head Married M 39 1862 General Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Catherine Wife Married F 37 1864
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Rhoda Daughter Single F 12 1889
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Reginald Son M 11 1890
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Jessie Daughter F 9 1892
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Edith Daughter F 9 1892
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Annie Daughter F 7 1894
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Ethel Daughter F 5 1896
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, William Son M 3 1898
Liverpool
Lancashire
BLACKLOCK, Ben Son M 0 (8 MOS) 1901
Liverpool
Lancashire


Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park Enumeration District:
74 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Paul

Civil Parish:
Toxteth Park Municipal Borough:
Address:
76, Clevedon Street, Toxteth Park County:
Lancashire

Marriages Mar 1918

Blacklock Edith St C Bradbury Newcastle T 10b 295
Bradbury Robert Blacklock Newcastle T. 10b 295

What does the St C standfor please?
Maybe she is under that name....?

Gwyn

Name: Edith St Clair Bradbury
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1891
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 2
Page: 0765

It is supposed to be Edith St Clair Blacklock;
i have the death certificate - which has given me the dob.
I don't know where the 'st clair' came from which is why I am trying to trace the birth so I can order the cert.

And what is her fathers name and occupation on her marriage cert.....please.

So we can try to find her on census.

I think Joanne may only have the death certificate and NOT the marriage certificate.

Dates of birth on death certificates are only as accurate as the information known to the informant and could be out by a few years.

Kath. x

I don't have her marriage cert; tho it may be I need to request it...

I think I have her on the 1911 census; showing her as aged 23? born in Newcastle.

Thanks
Jo

Marriage cert will be needed for this one I rather think.

It may even have witnesses of her family to try and help find her on census and then her birth under whatever name it may be?

That born in Newcastle one in 1888 is also on 1901.

Name: Edith Blacklock
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

There is this birth:-

Name: Edith Blacklock
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 84

This would tie in with her age on the 1911 census.

The St Clair bit of her name could have been added at baptism.


Kath. x

Could be the same one in the 1901 census:-


Name: Edith Blacklock
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Byker
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Newcastle
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 29 Norfolk Road

Occupation: Father is a Rolleyman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members:
Name Age

John Blacklock 44
Annie Blacklock 40
Edith Blacklock 13
William Blacklock 11
Dora Blacklock 8

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4790; Folio: 41; Page: 26.

I also think you will need her marriage certificate so you can determine her father's name.

Kath. x

Possible marriage of parents?

Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BLACKLOCK John Stafford Newcastle T. 10b 13
Marshall Annie Newcastle T. 10b 13

Which all fits in; other than the dob from the death certificate.

Is there anywhere online where I can pay to view the certificate; rather than waiting for it to arrive?

Who was the informant on the death certificate?

Edith may not have liked to admit she was older than everyone thought.

Kath. x

Unfortunately you cannot view certificates online.

Kath. x

It was her eldest son who was the informant.
x

Men are notoriously bad at remembering peoples ages (apologies to men!!), but you would think he would at least have the day and month correct - in which case the Sept. qtr. birth would seem wrong.

I think you really need the marriage certificate to see what age she says she is on there (although again many people lie about their age on marriage certificates). At least it will hopefully give you her father's name.

Kath. x

There seems a 'rabbit off' which is why it is bugging me.

Just checked incase the informant gave his dads dob but that was 1 June 1887.

There is also a family 'story' that the St Clair was because she was named after a Dame Clara ?? because a relative had been her dresser.

x

There's an Edith Blacklock on the 1891 census but she's 7, making her born 1884. She was born Newcastle and her parents are John & Annie.

A tree on Ancestry says she was born 16 Feb.1891, Newcastle, daughter of William Blacklock & Ann Atkinson.

Edit: OOPS! It's your tree!