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This may help with a search for the sons death;

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Harry Ingram
Name: Harry Ingram
City: Newark
County: Essex
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1898
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754348
DraftBoard: 12
Age: 20

Occupation: electrician (confirmed by 1920 census)

Nearest Relative: Mother; Mrs Florence Ingram

Height/Build: Tall in Height, Medium in Build

Colour of Eyes/Hair: both Brown

Signature: View image



Dee x

Thanks Dee and Choccy, that's really helpful. I wasn't expecting all the census stuff. I thought I would have to contact US Social Security but if I do, which department would deal with that sort of enquiry? Any ideas?

Geoff

Looks like the son Harry;

1930 United States Federal Census
about Harry Ingram
Name: Harry Ingram
Home in 1930: Belleville, Essex, New Jersey
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Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Betrice
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Ingram 32
Betrice Ingram 32


Married at age 25 and his occupation is a Carpenter.

No look in tracing the 5 year old boarder on the 1930 census.

But on the 1920 censu for Florence Katz...... the Katz family are living nextdoor to her parents; Henry and Florence Ingram.


Dee x

strangely in 1930 he is with his parents, stating he is single (I think) -


1930 United States Federal Census
Name: John Katz
Home in 1930: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
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Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Henry A
Mother's Name: Francis B
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Henry A Katz 68
Francis B Katz 69
Frederick Katz 36
John Katz 31
James A Katz 30




Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Newark, Essex, New Jersey; Roll 1339; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 198; Image: 428.0.

Social Security Death Index Social Security Death Index
Name: John Katz
SSN: 137-01-7464
Last Residence: 07083 Union, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 16 May 1898
Died: Nov 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)



Source Citation: Number: 137-01-7464;Issue State: New Jersey;Issue Date: Before 1951.

This looks like him in 1910. Father born in Germany and mother in Ireland.


1910 United States Federal Census
Name: John W Katz
[John W Latz]
Age in 1910: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Birthplace: New Jersey
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Henry A
Father's Birth Place: New Jersey
Mother's Name: Frances
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Home in 1910: Newark Ward 12, Essex, New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry A Katz 46
Frances Katz 44
Henry A Katz Jr 19
Francis B Katz 17
Frederick J Katz 16
John W Katz 11
James A Katz 10




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Newark Ward 12, Essex, New Jersey; Roll T624_879; Page: 18A; Enumeration District: 102; Image: 105.



and in 1900 -


1900 United States Federal Census
Name: John Katz
[John Ratz]
Home in 1900: Newark Ward 12, Essex, New Jersey
Age: 2
Birth Date: May 1898
Birthplace: New Jersey
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Father's Birthplace: New Jersey
Mother's Name: Francis
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Katz 36
Francis Katz 37
Henry Katz 10
Francis Katz 7
Fredric Katz 6
John Katz 2
Angustus Katz 4/12




Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Newark Ward 12, Essex, New Jersey; Roll T623_966; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 117.

Sorry Geoff, visitors just turned up. Hopefully someone else will pop in and help, if not I'll be back later.


Dee x

Looks like them 10 years previously;

1920 United States Federal Census
about Florence Katz
Name: Florence Katz
Home in 1920: Newark Ward 5, Essex, New Jersey
Age: 19
[18]
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
[abt 1902]
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1911
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Katz 22
Florence Katz 19
[18]
Harry Katz 0
[3/12]


John was born in New Jersey and his parents; Father's Birth Place: Germany, Mother's Birth Place: Ireland



Dee x

Hi Geoff,

is this the family?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Florence Katz
Name: Florence Katz
[Florence Ingram]
Home in 1930: Bloomfield, Essex, New Jersey
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Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Florence
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ingram 61
Florence Ingram 60
Florence Katz 30
Harry Katz 10
Alfred Cazigas 5


If so young Florence married at aged 17.


Dee x

My late mother's aunt emigrated to New Jersey with her 2 children in 1910 (I assume following her husband who'd already gone ahead but that's just a guess). In the Ellis Island records I've seen the ship's manifest which confirms this. Have also a copy of the relevant 1930 census page. The son (c31) is not listed (had set up home elsewhere?) and the daughter Florence (30) has married (but husband not listed) and has a son Harry. The local reference library have sent me copies of Florence's and Harry's obituaries, very helpful but I'm wondering how I can trace Florence's husband, parents and brother after 1930. I believe having their Social Security numbers would help to discover when they died but how would I find those? Also any other tips on tracking information eg if her brother married & had family how would I find them?

Hope someone can give me a lead or two please.

Thanks

Geoff