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Do you know what Henry's job was before he left the UK??

There is this one on the 1901 Census, althouhg the birth place is wrong

1901 Census

Name: Henry Ingram
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Disley
Ecclesiastical parish: Disley St Mary
Town: Disley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hayfield
Sub-registration district: Hayfield

William Jones 37
Helena Jones 41
Frederick J W Gibbs 14
Ernest Jones 12
John Jones 5
William Sailblard 68
Thomas Hallam 28
Henry Ingram 35 Boarder, MARRIED, Lanscape Gardener
John Tomkins 58



Maybe not, if this was Henry and Florence in 1891


1891 Census

Name: Henry Ingram
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Florence
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend

Henry Ingram 24 Machine Fitter
Florence Ingram 22 Tin Solderer





sylvia

Hi Geoff,

I couldn't see a Maddox Ingram marriage, but this marriage is in the correct area;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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ASTON Henry Aston 6d 426
Beason James Albert Aston 6d 426
>>>>>>INGRAM Henry Aston 6d 426
>>>>>>MURRAY Florence Aston 6d 426
Price Rachel Ruth Aston 6d 426


1891 England Census
about Florence Ingram
Name: Florence Ingram
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Back 94 Green Lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 77
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ingram 24 >>> Machine Fitter
Florence Ingram 22


Could this be them in 1891??


Dee x

This chap is married;

1901 Wales Census
about Henry Ingram
Name: Henry Ingram
Age in 1901: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Llandudno
Town: Llandudno
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: >>>> 6 Inch Shells???
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Conway
Sub-registration district: Creuddyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet J Sitting 37
Edward Hindley 32
Albert Griffin 36
Henry Ingram 32
Walter E Jackson 18
Herbert C Potter 20
Thomas Warren 20
Sarah J Hervey 57



Dee x

Posting the 1901 FMP census transcription - he appears to be a patient of some kind, along with the others.

The occupation looks like 'dressing 6 inch shells' (?) - the right sort of occupation


SITTING, Harriet J Matron Single F 37 1864 Trained Nurse (Matron)
Laxmindham
Suffolk VIEW
HINDLEY, Edward Patient Married M 32 1869 Turner & Inch Shells
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
GRIFFIN, Albert Patient Single M 36 1865 Amunition Worker
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
INGRAM, Henry Patient Married M 32 1869 Dressing & Inch Shells
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
JACKSON, Walter E Patient Single M 18 1883 Tool Maker Cap & Wad Tools
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
POTTER, Herbert C Patient Single M 20 1881 Turner & Inch Shells
Handsworth
Staffordshire VIEW
WARREN, Thomas Patient Single M 20 1881 Tool Maker
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
HERVEY, Sarah J Servant Widow F 57 1844 General Domestic
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
5290 Folio:
202 Page:
4

Registration District:
Conway Sub District:
Creuddyn Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Llandudno

Civil Parish:
Llandudno Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Craig Y Don Parade, Llandudno County:
Carnarvonshire

Have just come across a partial entry for Henry Ingram in 1920 US Census in Essex, New Jersey, but as Henery Ingran. No further info available.

The UK incoming passenger lists for 1878 to 1960 (series BT 26). Is this what to consult to see if someone has returned from USA after eg 30 years? Does it only cover those who intend to stay in UK, ie not here just for a short visit of are they included too?

Is there a particular department (an archive?) within US Social Security which holds records of Social Security numbers given to immigrants (in this case Henry & Florence Ingram, UK citizens but resident in New Jersey 1910-1830 and beyond). Also is there a US government department (naturalization?) which has records of aliens becoming US citizens?

Geoff

The UK incoming passenger list 1878-1960 show the images from the passenger lists, regardless of whether they are visitors, or intend to make the UK their permanent residence. There is a column where this is indicated ie last place of permanent residence/ intended place of permanent residence. That may only indicate a country. Some records show the destination eg c/o Joe Bloggs, 21 The Street, New Town, County etc

USA Naturalisation - try this link

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

(www.ucis.gov)

To DET,

Thanks for the links to UK incoming passenger list 1878-1960 and USA Naturalisation, I'll follow them up.

Regards,

Geoff