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Morning!

I am wondering if anyone can help me to find the children of
JOHN PHILLIPS abt 1857 Bromley and Louisa Ellis [Louisa was born in Constansinople, Turkey and listed as a british Subject]... I know nothing on John Phillips other than i have guessed on his birth via their marriage cert 14 Jan 1879 - Poplar... I believe they had around 8-9 Children including my Great grandmother Ada Phillips [ Another lady that i know very little about ]...

Just someone might find something i haven't... A BIG THANK YOU to those who help me
Tracey

1891 England Census
about Louisa Phillips
Name: Louisa Phillips
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Constantinsple

Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows (Bow Common)
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Phillips 34 Bromley
Louisa Phillips 30
Lonisa Phillips 12
Ada Phillips 10
Lilly Phillips 9
Alice Phillips 5
William Phillips 2 6/12
Mabel Phillips 11/12



Rose

1901 England Census

Name: Louisa Phillips
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Constanbinegate, Turkey

Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Bow Common
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley

Name Age
John Phillips 43 Where born: Poplar, London, England
Louisa Phillips 40
Ada Phillips 21 Where born: Bromley, London, England
Lily Phillips 19
Alice Phillips 15
William Phillips 43
Amelia Phillips 9
John Phillips 6
Harry Phillips 4

1881 England Census
about John Phillips
Name: John Phillips
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Laura
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Leonard Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 12 Fairfoot Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Fellowship Porter

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Phillips 24
Laura Phillips 21
Louisa Phillips 2
Ada Phillips 11 months

Rose

The Laura in 1881 was born Constantinople though transcribed as Greece.
Jan

Do you have John's father's name Tracey?
Jan

Here they are in the 1911 census.

PHILLIPS, John Head Married M 54 1857 Warehouseman Wharf Bromley Bby Bow
PHILLIPS, Louisa Wife Married 31 years F 50 1861 Carstantinople
PHILLIPS, Amelia Daughter Single F 19 1892 Bromley by Bow
PHILLIPS, John Son Single M 16 1895 Bromley by Bow
PHILLIPS, Harry Son Single M 14 1897 Bromley by Bow


RG number: RG14
Piece: 1710
Reference: RG14PN1710 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED33 SN100

Registration District: Poplar
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 33
Parish: Poplar Borough

Address: 2 Swaton Road Bromley by Bow
County: London

Jan

Think it was William

That was quick - fantastic

Could i find baptisms for these children???
I would like to find out more on Ada Phillips { my Great grandmother }

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Phillips
Name: John Phillips
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Louisa Ellis
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Jan 1879
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Phillips Victualler
Spouse Father Name: George Ellis


Rose

1861 England Census
about John Phillips
Name: John Phillips
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Poplar All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
William Phillips 40 Victualler South Wales, Pembroke
Lucy Phillips 30
Martha Phillips 16
Eliza Phillips 8
William Phillips 5
John Phillips 4
Arthur Phillips 3
Flora Phillips 2
James Phillips 7 Mo
John Phillips 24
Eliza Clemmings 22


Rose

The original image (1911 census) states that they have been married for 31 years and have had 11 children, 8 still living.
It also reads that Louisa was born in Constantinople, yet gives her Nationality status as 'ditto' that of her husband above, ie English.

K

1851 England Census
about William Phillips
Name: William Phillips
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Eliza Phillips 46
Joseph Hocking 28
Ann Hocking 22
William Phillips 32
Martha Phillips 8

Rose

Karen this is fantastic..

I cant find a death for ada Phillips... She married Thomas Malcolm Jarvis 31 Jul 1904 Romford and they only had two children listed Thomas Henry Jarvis 1906 { my Grandad} and brother Ernest John Jarvis 1914...


Sorry for asking so much.. My grandad never spoke about his father or brother

xx

Looking at LMA records, London Baptisms for your Ada Phillips but cannot see a record, though there is this....

Name: Alice May Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 May 1886
Father's Name: John Phillips
Mother's Name: Louisa Phillips
Parish: St Mary, Bromley St Leonard
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Original image gives her birth date as 15 April 1886. Father's occupation is difficult to read, could be Wool Broker. No address given, it just states Bromley.

???

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Jarvis
Name: Ada Jarvis
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 293

Rose

This could be them in 1911....

JARVIS, Thomas Malcom Head Married M 30 1881 Waterside Labourer Beddington Surrey
JARVIS, Ada Wife Married 7 years F 30 1881 Bow London E
JARVIS, Thomas Henry Son M 5 1906 Bow London E
NOOLANDS, Mary Boarder Widow F 74 1837 Cork Ireland

RG number: RG14
Piece: 1711
Reference: RG14PN1711 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED34 SN332

Registration District: Poplar
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 34
Parish: Poplar Borough

Address: 65 Raverley St Bow London E
County:
London

Thats interesting...

Some one in the family has given me a date of 23 Mar 1937 for her death but no place of death again i can't confirm or find details...

Trac x

Original image (1911 census) confirms they've been married for 7 yrs and have had 1 child, still living.

K

I know Raverley St... My dad has told me over the years that his nan lived there... So that confirms that

thanks again x

More likely this:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Jarvis
Name: Ada Jarvis
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1938
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 411