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Well that seems to have confirmed my 1911 findings

Assume this is Alice in 1881:

1881 England Census
about Alice Large
Name: Alice Large
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Sally
Gender: Female
Where born: Leigh, Kent, England

Civil parish: Leigh
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Hollanden Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Large 31
Sally Large 27
Lewis Large 9
Alice Large 7
Mary A. Large 5
Emly Large 2
Elizabeth Large 1

Rose

Alice died the same qtr that Frederick's birth was registered. Have to assume she died giving birth or soon after.

Rose

Thanks Maureen,

I was going to ask how long they had been married in 1911.

Rose

Oh yes,I see what you mean,Rose. On the 1911 for Edith and Henry it says they've been married a year and have had no children,so the boys would be Alice's.

Maureen

oops-double posted!
Maureen

Just so that we can rule these people out:

1911 census transcription details for: 12 Scotch Flats Bassant Road Plumstead
RG14PN2911 RG78PN100 RD30 SD4 ED7 SN445


Reg. District: Woolwich Sub District: Plumstead East
Parish: Plumstead Enum. District: 7
Address: 12 Scotch Flats Bassant Road Plumstead
County: London
SEALE, Arthur Head Married M 35 1876 Bricklayer Kent Leigh
SEALE, Beatrice Louise Wife Married
15 years F 34 1877 Kent Tun Wills
SEALE, Elsie Lilian Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Kent Tun Wills
SEALE, Albert Victor Son Single M 8 1903 School Kent Tun Wills
SEALE, Ivy Louise Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Kent Plumstead
SEALE, Frederick James Son Single M 4 1907 Kent Plumstead
SEALE, William Henry Son Single M 2 1909 Kent Plumstead


Maureen

First marriage:

Marriages Mar 1903
Large Alice Sevenoaks 2a 965
Seale Harry Sevenoaks 2a 965


and wife's death:

Deaths Dec 1908
Seale Alice 33 Tonbridge 2a 4[35]5

Rose

Arthur and Maisie:

Births Sep 1912
SEALE Edith M Draper Tonbridge 2a 1602
Births Jun 1920
Seale Arthur Draper Tonbridge 2a 1865

Rose

Father's 2nd marriage:

Marriages Sep 1910
Draper Edith Tonbridge 2a 1716
Seale Harry Tonbridge 2a 1716

Rose

Fred was a full brother Arthur and Maisie were half siblings. Perhaps his father remarried after the 1911 census

Harrys marriage cert is needed to confirm his father

Suggest Seal as alternative spelling in 1911

Peter

There is a Beatrice L Seale daeth Tonbridge in 1959

Free BMD gives Seale mmn Barden biths including 1916 in Tonbridge

1901 Census gives Arthur George b 1897 - may make a 1911 search easier......

Peter

That's the only one I'm seeing as well. No Harry with an Arthur.

1911 census transcription details for: 8 Castle St Southborough
RG14PN4072 RG78PN156 RD50 SD1 ED33 SN193


Reg. District: Tonbridge Sub District: Tunbridge Wells
Parish: Southborough Enum. District: 33
Address: 8 Castle St Southborough
County: Kent
SEALE, Henry Head Married M 33 1878 Coachman Domestic Hildenborough Kent
SEALE, Edith Wife Married F 29 1882 Kent Southborough
SEALE, Harry Son M 6 1905 School Kent Hildenborough
SEALE, Fredrick Son M 2 1909 Kent Tonbridge


Maureen

perhaps
1911 census free search
Henry Seale 1878
Edith Seale 1882
Harry Seale 1905
Fredrick Seale 1909

living Tonbridge

If that's the marriage it looks like the Beartice Louise Barden. There is an Arthur with a Louie in the 1901 census.

Peter

Thanks Jill, I had the same thought - could one of his secfrets be that he was not as old as his wife? I will ask my Mum as soon as I can. Some days she is very interested and some days she seems to be afraid of what I will find. I would love to give her some good news for a change!

Hi Pamela

The death registration shows his age as 35, which indicates a birth of 1904. Of course it all depends on who registered his death and the age may not be accurate, but I cannot spot an earlier birth for him.

Have you rummaged around in FreeBMD - it's free to use and very easy.

To order certs you need to go to the General Register Office (GRO). You can order online. At the moment they cost £7 each but are about to go up to £9.25 (on 5th or 6th April).

I don't know whether the Kent family are your family at all - just that the ages and names all seem to fit ... Maybe a few of the names will jog your mum's memory?

But start with his marriage certificate - if your mum has that. Check the age on there. (Is it possible he lied about his age when he married if his wife was born in 1901 ... ??)

Jill

I only know (think) Harry had a full brother, Fred and half siblings. Maisie and Arthur. I don't Mother or Step mother's names.

Oh wow, I can't keep up with you! Yes i believe that is his death but he was definitely born in 1901.