Genealogy Chat

Leave it on this thread but suggest you change the title to include Scotland.

Ozi

Hi All
I have checked the Scottish census index and cannot find any Joseph Rowell b.1841 or b1865.
Could anyone who has access to Scottish records look for a marriage for Joseph and Jane or should I put it on a separate thread?

Thanks

Hi Choccy

Yes i have got that one, sorry Typo error, but thanks anyway for taking the time to look for me.

Hi NinjaLady

Thank you, until today it never occured to me to look in Scotland! A fresh pair of eyes can sometimes see what you can't. It seems pretty obvious now, but I was so focused on Carlisle and Liverpool !

Thanks

1881 England Census
Name: Joseph Rowell
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Holly St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Joiner

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Rowell 40
Jane Rowell 36
Joseph Rowell 14
William J. Rowell 11




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3631; Folio: 21; Page: 36; GSU roll: 1341869.

You may need to look at Scotland's People for a marriage for Joseph Rowell and Jane McGaven - as Carlisle is on the border its always possible they married in Scotland. And its possible the McGaven/Potter marriage was also in Scotland.

Hi All

If anyone can help me with my brickwall, I would be grateful. I have been trying for seven years to solve this problem.
I will tell you what I know and maybe someone on this board can find what I can't.( Sorry if it is a bit long)

My Great Grandfather was JOSEPH ROWELL b.1865 Liverpool.
He died in 1905, I have his birth and death cert, also newspaper obituary.
He married MARY BRANNON in 1889 Liverpool and had 10 children.( The children were Catholic)

His Parents were JOSEPH ROWELL b.1841 Carlisle and JANE.

They had JOSEPH and WILLIAM JAMES b.1870 Liverpool.

The birth cert of JOSEPH states father JOSEPH ROWELL ( Joiner) mother JANE ROWELL late Mc.Gaven formerly Potter.

My problems are :
I can't find father or son on any census until 1881when they are living next door to each other in Liverpool.

I can't find a marriage of Joseph and Jane.

I can't find a marriage of Jane Potter to a Mv.Gaven

In 1891 Joseph Snr. is living with Jane and two nephews, Hugh and Joseph Williams.

I have found a marriage of WILLIAM Williams to Mary Jane Rowell in Liverpool in 1880.

I have found a birth of Mary Jane Rowell in 1862 Liverpool.

I have then found Joseph Jnr. living next door to William and Mary Jane Williams in the 1901census.

If they are brother and sister there is a nineteen year age gap ( not unusual I know).

Today on Family Search I found the births and christenings of some of the children of Joseph and Mary, the oldest of which is John Joseph Rowell which says he was christened 26th of May 1890 Liverpool, but born in BUTE SCOTLAND on the 11th May .1890.

There is a Joseph Rowell on Family Search b.1841 Walton Cumberland, but the family emigrated to Canada, so he is not mine.
ANY IDEAS???????????

Thanks in advance