Genealogy Chat

Hello Sally

Although you can find a lot of information using online resources, indexes etc at the end of the day you can only prove that your assumptions are correct by having certificates. You don't need every single one, but certain ones are essential. So your grandparents' marriage is one of those - we can "assume" that his father is Samuel, but we can't be sure.

You can order certificates from the General Register Office (GRO) or from a local register office (Camberwell in this case). They currently cost £7 but as said, the price is increasing next month. Do not buy them from any other place, they charge a lot more.

Some of the London events are available on Ancestry - this applies to Annie's marriage to Annie Walker.

It sounds like you have a lot to learn about this fascinating hobby - people here will help you out, but I'd suggest you find a good book on the subject - it needs to be up to date cos resources are changing all the time.

Good luck

Margaret

thank you akll info greatly recieved . whats gro stand for . god how stupid do i feel

Annie's marriage to Harry WALKER is online on Ancestry site.

Will post details if you need them
Information will be identical to that on a GRO certificate.


Gwyn

I've had a look at the family search pilot record search and there's a Samuel Glass born September quarter 1919 in Belfast.
And on the ancestryireland site theres an entry for A Samuel Glass fathers name Samuel born 1919 County Antrim which might be the same one.

Teresa

Hi if you know what Samuel Glass' father name and occupation is you could look on the 1911 census for Ireland.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Some of the Mormon Family History Centres also have the Irish BMD Indexes. I'll nudge up my thread on this in case there's one near you.

Teresa

thank you very much ozi .as i said earlier im very new at this . i can see now you have explained it that its obvios lol .

You told us that Minnie's mother was an Annie Voller. So I went looking for the marriage with no luck but came up with Annie Voller marrying a Harry Walker and an Annie Walker marrying an Arthur Hickmott. This means your great-grandmother was also married twice.

What you do now is up to you. As Annie is a direct ancestor I would be buying both her marriage certificates eventually. It's up to you.

Certificates can be bought at www.gro.gov.uk online or local registration districts. Do not pay more than £7 (the price goes up to £9.25 in April).

Ozi

thank you for the details you have posted oz . but can you tell me what i do from here . and what they mean . sorry to be a pain but i am a internet novice xx

from ancestry



UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945

Name: George Ouseley
Given Initials: G J
Rank: Signalman
Death Date: 13 Feb 1944
Number: 2366585
Birth Place: London SE
Residence: London SE
Branch at Enlistment: Royal Corps of Signals
Theatre of War: Eritrea
Regiment at Death: Royal Corps of Signals
Branch at Death: Royal Corps of Signals




sylvia

These are possibilities for your Nan's mum.

Marriages Dec 1918
>>>Hickmott Arthur Walker Camberwell 1d 1742
Sims Edith A Clark Camberwell 1d 1742
SMITH Edith A Clerk Camberwell 1d 1742
>>>Walker Annie E Hickmott Camberwell 1d 1742

Marriages Dec 1904
Catten Charles Joseph Camberwell 1d 1411
Pickup Elizabeth Susan Camberwell 1d 1411
>>>Voller Annie Emma Camberwell 1d 1411
>>>Walker Harry Camberwell 1d 1411

The mystery marriage certificate will give you some clues re. father's name etc.


Gwyn

no we dont have the birth certificate. info we do have is results of gr search. we no nothing about the glass family. and thought they would be the ones to keep us guessing not nan lol . thanks for the advice we will start a new thread soon . you guys are great

I'm sorry, ... I know almost nothing about researching in Ireland.

A copy of the marriage certificate ( which you have, I believe? ) will give the name and occupation of Samuel's father. This will help to find the correct registration.

Were any other GLASS family witnesses to the marriage?

You can either change the title of this thread, to ask for eg Birth in Ireland 1918 help....or start a new one asking for where to look.

Gwyn

Thank you ever so much for your help Gwyn. Its all very interesting!!.. My grandad was a bit of an old rogue himself, and it makes me feel more human knowing that my grandparents both had interesting lives too!!! Do you have any tips on finding relatives of my grandad SAMUAL GLASS in Ireland??.. he was born in 1918 in belfast.. im a bit new to this and are struggling a bit!!

Probably the birth registration of George, ..the 1st husband

Births Jun 1921

Ouseley George J .....mother's maiden name,Gibbons St.Olave 1d 316

Gwyn

Sally
It would seem that Minnie first married George J OUSELEY in 1941, but he was killed in the War in 1944.

In 1946 as widow OUSELEY, she married Samuel GLASS.


Gwyn

i was thinking along them lines too!!!... but have only just come across the name ousley today.. so was a bit of an eye opener!!!.. info on mr ousley would be greatly appreciated.. thankyou for your help helen

hello brummiejan.. that record is correct.. any ideas??.. im very new to this so please bear with me!!.. and help with anything you think i might struggle with!!

It looks like 1st husband George is on someone's tree on GR.

Look on SEARCH TREES section.

Gwyn

The record you have:

Name: Minnie E Ouseley
Spouse Surname: Glass
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 521

Record
Preview
Name: Samuel Glass
Spouse Surname: Ouseley
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1946
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 521

Samuel Glass Ouseley Oct-Nov-Dec 1946 Camberwell Surrey