Genealogy Chat

Would some kind person take a look at the 1901 Census for the following people please. I have them up to and including 1891 Census after that they seem to vanish into thin air.
Alfred Richard Wright - 1859 Lambeth - Head
Charlotte Wright (nee Parsons) - 1860 Newington - Wife
Alfred Wright - 1888 Newington - Son
Charlotte Wright - 1887 Newington - Daughter

Hi Linda,

I have possibly found the father and son, father listed as widowed. Occupation market porter. But I don't know how to get the information onto GR, do I copy and paste something?

Duncan

alfred still seems to be alive on Charlottes marriage cert

Name: Charlotte Wright
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Spouse Name: William McKenzie
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Sep 1907
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Alfred Wright horse keeper
Spouse Father Name: John McKenzie

Can't spot them as yet on the 1901, thought maybe they had left the Country but this looks hopefull for 1911, maybe ?.

HOUSEHOLD WRIGHT MRS CHARLOTTE F 1861 50 Southwark London
HOUSEHOLD WRIGHT MR ALFRED M 1859 52 Southwark London

That's interesting Netty, the one I found is in Southwark too. Dodgy dealings? I think I've worked out how to get it on here, if I'm right here it is.

Name: Alfred Wright
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred
Gender: Male
Where born: London N

Civil parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 351
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Wright 39
Alfred Wright 12

I wasn't sure about that one as Alfred says Widow ?not born in london

WRIGHT, MR ALFRED HEAD MARRIED 25 YRS M 52 HORSEKEEPER LAMBETH
WRIGHT, MRS CHARLOTTE WIFE MARRIED 25 YRS F 50 WALWORTH
WRIGHT, ALFRED RICHARD SON SINGLE M 22 LABOURER WALWORTH
MACKENZIE, CHARLOTTE GRANDDAUGHTER SINGLE F 3 WALWORTH

Address 1 QUEENS ROW S E County London
District Southwark Subdistrict Newington South
Enumeration District 23 Parish St Mary Newington

Where does it say Alfred Snr was born? I couldn't read it but thought it looked a bit like Islington! He obviously can't have been a widow if you have found his wife afterwards, but maybe this was a lie - something like the bloke who turned up in Panama last year.
Duncan

That's strange, in 1901 Alfred is a widower and living with his son. What has happened to his daughter?? Then in 1911 He's listed with wife Charlotte!! The plot thickens.

Thank you everyone for your help, any further input greatly appreciated.

Will have to come back tomorrow, need to get some shut eye, I'm going crossed eyed where I've been on this so long.

P.S. Alfred Snr. born in Lambeth, rest in Newington Southwark.
How strange their address was given as Queens Row and I lived there when I was 4/5 years old.

spooky !

Hi all

Had the same problem just the other day. Couldn't find a family on Ancestry but they were on FMP.

This is a big household! (I think it's all one household but it may not be). Charlotte senior doesn't appear because she is the person I searched on:


1901 address search new 1901 person search redefine current search
Institution,
Household
or Vessel Name Sort Birth
Year Age Sex Registration District County Household
Transcript Original
census
image
Household BENNETT, Joseph 1855 46 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household BENNETT, Laura 1859 42 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household BROOKS, Harry H 1876 25 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household KEBLE, Ellen 1847 54 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household KEBLE, James N 1848 53 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household MASON, Thomas 1860 41 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Charles 1860 41 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Edward 1893 8 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Ethel 1899 2 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Henry 1889 12 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Horace 1895 6 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Mary A 1863 38 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household TRIM, Sydney 1898 3 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Alfred Richd 1860 41 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW>>>
Household WRIGHT, Alfred Richd 1889 12 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW>>>
Household WRIGHT, Baby 1901 0 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Charlottee 1888 13 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW>>>
Household WRIGHT, Elsie 1897 4 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Florence 1898 3 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, John 1859 42 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, John 1886 15 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Mary 1869 32 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Mary 1895 6 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Maud 1888 13 F St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, Robert 1889 12 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, William 1866 35 M St Saviour Southwark London VIEW VIEW
Household WRIGHT, William 1894 7 M St Saviour Southwark London

Now all that's needed is a kind person with a sub to FMP......

Julie

Brilliant Julie, spent the afternoon on Ancestry but nothing !

Could someone tell what FMP is please.

I am totally confused with the info. which has been posted but I am thinking that perhaps the info. which Jooleh has posted maybe the correct one.

Opinions on this gratefully received please.

Regards

Linda

Linda, FMP is Findmypast.co.uk

The "Trim" family Julie found were there on the Ancestry 1901 with a Charlotte visiting.

1901

Name: Charlotte Wright
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 4 St David st.

Occupation: Collar Maker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 478

Charles Trim 41
Mary A Trim 38
Henry Trim 12
Edward Trim 8
Horace Trim 6
Ethel Trim 2
Sydney Trim 3
Charlotte Wright 27 Single.



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 371; Folio: 102; Page: 61.

Sorry didn't mean to confuse the issue. There's obviously more than one family there. I'll try and just post the ones you are looking for. Give me time to edit the others out!

Julie

Sorry didn't mean to confuse the issue. There's obviously more than one family there. I'll try and just post the ones you are looking for. Just in the middle of something but I'll come back!

Julie

1901 address search new 1901 person search redefine current search

Household WRIGHT, Charlotte 1862 39 F St Saviour Southwark London

Household WRIGHT, Alfred Richd 1860 41 M St Saviour Southwark London

Household WRIGHT, Alfred Richd 1889 12 M St Saviour Southwark London

Household WRIGHT, Charlottee 1888 13 F St Saviour Southwark London

Julie,
Thank you for your time on this.

Sorry if I'm a bit dumb here but where did you get this info. from and how did you eliminate Elsie 1897, Florence 1898 and Baby 1901 from the pack. (For future ref. so I can do it for myself).

If this is what you call an address search where do you get the address from to search???

Linda

Sorry about the previous confusion Linda -i t's because there were several Charlotte Wrights in the area so this time I searched on Alfred Richd instead.

If you want to check it for yourself here's what to do:

Choose 1901 person search on the FindMyPast site.

Click on the Advanced Search tab. Don't uncheck any boxes but do leave ALL fields clear except for the following:

Reg district = St Saviour Southwark

County = London

Other persons living in the same household =

Alfred Richd Wright

Make sure you put his middle name in the middle box!

That should bring up all the people living in the same household as Alfred Richd Wright

Julie

I was typing whilst you posted !
First you have to find the person you are going to do the 'other person' search on.

I did a basic search for Charlotte Wright born 1860. Too many came up.

Then I did an advanced search but I can't for the life of me reproduce it now! You have to go through a process of elimination until you hit on the most likely person.

I'll have another go at reproducing it later......

Julie