Genealogy Chat

I wouldn't worry about hot matches, they will come back, though you might find a lot of people you have already contacted.

Never made any difference to my GR tree Elizabeth - I now have a larger tree elsewhere that started from me exporting from GR. Maybe one day I will gedcom it back and then it will show the relationships better.
Yes the photos don't transfer but the rest looks perfectly okay.

My grandparents were first cousins and it makes for messy reading on GR with some people having to be entered twice. In fact I have a lot of rellies marrying other rellies and the only way to have it shown correctly on GR is to import it from another site. My tree on here looks like I have more people than I really do have with all the double entries.

Cheers

Persey

I have been thinking hard about this - I don't (unusually) get InspectorGreenPen's point. Surely what you do with the gedcom when it reaches you is irrelevant - GR doesn't know what you are going to do with it, whether you put it on a freebie or a more elaborate programme. Surely everyone who has gedcomed a tree out of GR to load elsewhere hasn't been left with such a depleted tree on GR? Please can anyone give me a definitive answer on this? I wasn't originally that worried about my tree, but such information might well put off Donna - and others! - from gedcoming out of GR at all.

I knew that if you imported a gedcom to a GR tree it completely overrode the earlier tree - and I knew it didn't export photographs - I didn't have any photographs or map references to export so I wouldn't have noticed - and I don't think it wiped out any hot matches. Is it really saying that to export a gedcom from GR wipes out all these references on the GR records? I can see why Donna is concerned - my GR tree seems intact but have I missed something?

You pays your money and takes your choice, as my old boss used to say.

Get a decent commercial program - FTM, 2010 for example at around £20 for the software alone - and it will do just what you want.

Ann 17th December 2008 23:16 Request review
Hi All

Reply received from GR

Thank you for your email. I am afraid that at the moment it is not possible to view the print preview if your tree has more than about 800 names in it. This is because it would take too long to display.

I will mention this to the development team though in case they decide to make any changes in the future.

I am sorry for the inconvenience.

Hi Margaret, I've just had a quick look and I'm worried as it says that if you use Gedcom That you you loose all the photos, all relations you have plotted and mapped and any hot matches. I have 1397 realtions on my tree and would be gutted if I lost it all.Are you sure its safe?
Regards Donna.

Thank you Margaret, I'm going to give it a go at the weekend. Someone else has sent a message saying to try tribal pages too. I'm spoilt for choice now.
I'll try to remember to let you know how I get on.
Many thanks, Donna

I've got it. Click on Family Tree in the dark green bar above this page. It gives you two options. One of which is GEDCOMS. Click on that. You then get two choices, to Import a Gedcom or to Export a Gedcom. You want Export.

Follow the instructions. I haven't done it, but I guess you will be given the option to download it onto your hard-drive, so do that in a place that you will remember. I actually have a folder on my hard-drive entitled GEDCOMS cos I have other people's family trees on there too. So download it. And then go to PAF and upload that GEDCOM file to PAF.

Open PAF and go to File, Import, and click on the GEDCOM file you have just saved on your hard-drive. And Bingo, it should work.

I did ask my friend who uses Legacy, but he only has a trial version and it doesn't sound very good.

If you need a free version PAF seems okay for starters.

Best of luck

Margaret

Thank you Elizabeth, thats sounds great.
I have tried before with the family tree and also tried with other people helping too incase it was just me but it only prints out lines for some pages and it used about 40 sheets of paper and then I couldn't work out who was linked to who.Very confussing.I'll try again when I get 5 minutes.
Thanks again for your help, regards Donna

I have the PAF package from Family Search as a back up.
On your Home page, click Family Trees, then click Gedcoms. This page gives instruction for importing and exporting gedcoms. Click on export, and GR will send your tree as a e-mail with the tree as an attachment. Thihs won't open of its own accord - click it to open and you will get a notice saying you need to create a new file. As you already have the Paf package I expect it is in in your file list with a name, so you can give it that name or change it to anything you like.

And going back to your original request - it does print off basic trees very well - you pick up a name and you can click "Ancestors" or "Descendants" and just get that as a package - and there are two different layouts you can choose from - I have found this useful when giving bits of trees to different branches of the family. You may have toi practice for a bit till you get the layout you want!

Good luck - I hope this helps

I can't work it out. I know you can do it. Can somebody else help please?

Sorry Donna, I thought it would be easy, but my screeen won't let me do it.

Hi Madmeg, I know I downloaded the paf package some time ago.
How do I go about creating a Gedcom on the Genes site? Thats sounds fab and will save me soooo much time.
Thank you, you are very helpful and as you can tell I'm not overly technical, I just get by hahaha.
Thank you for your help and advice, it's good to know that people are still willing to help others in this day and age.
Many thanks, Donna.

Donna, the PAF and Legacy packages are not "on line", they are held on your own computer. There is no need to have to copy all your ancestors to a new package. There is the facility on GR to create a GEDCOM file of what you have on there, and download/upload it to your new package, where you can then print off reports in a more flexible manner.

I'll ask my friend about Legacy.

Margaret

Thanks Madmeg I'll give it a go.
I really didn't want to have to re add all my info on to another site but Genes site just wont print mine off as there are too many names on it arghhh.
I really apreciate your help, just need a few hrs to get on it before the kids want the computer again hahaha.
I've never heard of legacy, I may look that up as well, it may be easier for my small barain to cope with.
Many thanks, Donna

To add photos, go to Edit Individual, and at the right hand side there is a little camera. Click on that. Add. You are then able to browse your hard drive for the photo that you want.

Play around with it for a while, Donna. You can always delete the lot and start again from your Genes Tree.

I've just had a look at my PAF. I pulled up a list of all relatives, went to Edit and chose Delete Individual. Oh you can do the same in any of the views. I've just deleted my cousin!

A friend uses Legacy, but he's gone to the theatre tonight, so I will ask him tomorrow. He never uses anything he has to pay for, so will be an expert!

To add a sibling, go to one of your parents, click on Add child, then if this is a new person not already in your tree, choose Add a New Individual. Type the details in the box that comes up. If you've already got the person in your tree, but not as a sibling, choose Add an Existing Individual. It pulls up a little window asking for the RN number. You won't know that, so choose Individual List and all the people in your tree will appear. Highlight the one you want to add and click Okay.

You can do the same to add spouses and other relatives.

I'm off to eat now, but have a play and I'll come back after.

I have to say, though, it's not my favourite package.

I'm not sure if it's me but I still can't seem to get top grips with PAF.It doesn't seem to be straight forward or indeed answer any of the questions I have. Can anyone else suggest another less complicated site I can use (preferably free) so I can print off individual families from my tree as my tree on genes reunited is too big.
Can anyone please help?
Thanks Donna.

Thanks Jill I will try that.
How do you delete members as I couldn't work out how to do that either?
Thanks again Donna

There is a way of connecting up an individual to a family already on PAF. I think you go to the father of the child, then Add Child - it should ask you something like "Do you want to add an existing individual or a new individual?" you tick existing and can then give the name (or number) of the individual record. I've done that a couple of times and it's easy enough when you get used to it.

Jill