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i will start again
I was Helping a Friend find his Granparents
he only new that His Father was
William Rufus Williams DOB 28/01/1900
His Mother Was ADA Scott
os i sent for marriage cert of Ada Scott And William Rufus Williams
on the Marriage cert We have 28/11/1922
William williams age 22 years Bachelor Smith's Stricker 51 Clark street bedminster Bristol His fathers name is Down as Henry George Williams deceased He was a Tailor
Ada Scott age 22 years Spinster Living at 22 Richmond terrace Bedminster
her father Walter Scott Deceased Cabinet maker
William & Ada Witness was Emma scott & Henry George Williams
Marriage took place in bristol Registy office
so its not down as William Rufus Williams ( as Father of William rufus Williams Ada's Husbands Dad)
so i sent for the birth cert of william williams (Ada's Husband )
Date of birth 28/01/1900
Fathers name William rufus Williams
Mothers Name Rose Williams Formerly Williams
there adress was 100 Park street Totterdown Bristol ( England )
hope i have put it a bit better to under stand
Regards Angela
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My brain seems a bit slower than usual tonight. Please explain.
Angela, you say:
i ordered William Rufus Williams & Ada Scotts Marriage Cert
On the Cert Williams R Williams ( Thats my friend 's father ) as his father down as Henry George Williams Deceased
( Witness on Marriage cert is Henry George Williams )
And Emma Scott )
so i sent for William Rufus Williams Birth Cert ( that's Thats my Friends Father so i have his mothers name as well on the marriage cert )
I don't understand the last bit - you say you have William Rufus's mother's name on the marriage certificate. Are you assuming that this is Emma Scott? But she is not William Rufus Williams' mother, or indeed anybody's mother. She could be a sister of Ada, or a sister in law, or an aunt, or even other relationships.
I have to start with that marriage certificate. The Henry George Williams who witnessed it is clearly not William Rufus's father, could be a brother. So who is Emma Scott?
Sorry, I can't progress till I have it clear.
Obviously the name William Rufus Williams isn't going to be common, but I just wondered how you had made your assumptions.
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That is odd. This looks likely for 1901:
1901 census transcription details for: 1, Railway Cottages, Bristol
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2363 Folio: 66 Page: 37
Reg. District: Bristol Sub District: Bedminster
Parish: Bristol Enum. District: 42
Ecclesiastical District: Bedminster St Lukes City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Railway Cottages, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
WILLIAMS, Henry Head Married M 38 1863 General Labourer Warehouse
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire
WILLIAMS, Rose Wife Married F 35 1866 Tailoress
Bath
Somersetshire
WILLIAMS, Maud Daughter Single F 15 1886 General Servant Domestic
Bristol
WILLIAMS, Beatrice Daughter Single F 13 1888
Cardiff Glangetown
WILLIAMS, Lilian Daughter Single F 10 1891
Canton
WILLIAMS, Henry Son Single M 6 1895
Canton
WILLIAMS, Herbert Son Single M 5 1896
Bristol
WILLIAMS, William Son Single M 1 1900
Bristol
WILLIAMS, Winifred Daughter Single F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Bristol
Maureen
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Hi Madmeg
i ordered William Rufus Williams & Ada Scotts Marriage Cert
On the Cert Williams R Williams ( Thats my friend 's father ) as his father down as Henry George Williams Deceased
( Witness on Marriage cert is Henry George Williams )
And Emma Scott )
so i sent for William Rufus Williams Birth Cert ( that's Thats my Friends Father so i have his mothers name as well on the marriage cert )
But on the Birth cert For
William Rufus William = Date of Birth 28/01/1900
Parents is
William Rufus Williams and Mother Rose Williams Formerly Williams
so that is what i have it seems strange that There are two diffrent Father down on his birth cert and marriage cert
so who is Henry George Williams Witness on marriage cert
and Who the father of william Rufus Williams
regards
Angela
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It would seem to me that one of these certificates is incorrect.
Presumably the marriage certificate is to a woman that you already knew about, so that more or less confirmed it was the right one?
So did you then look to find the groom and his father on census records?
Did you manage to find William Rufus Williams with a father Henry George Williams?
It is not usually wise to get a birth certificate without first getting a marriage certificate.
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Angela please remove your personal email address from your thread. Not only is it risky, it against the rules.
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This is what i have so far
just had post marriage cert says his Father henry George Williams Deceased
Birth Cert says father William Rufus Williams (Same as His name )
Mother Rose Williams Formerly Williams
so wiliam Rufus Williams was born 28 Januray 1900
born in Bristol 100 Part street Knowle Bristol England
Regards Angela
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