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If we look at Maureen's 1901 census, William has four sisters, and a brother Bert. Might Jack be wrong in thinking it was his dad's cousin?
But I'm still at a loss as to this difference between Jack's father's birth and marriage certificates. I would guess that the birth certificate is more reliable than the marriage certificate, but then we can't find a William with a son William.
Maybe somebody else will spot something.
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You say there are bucketfuls of William Rufus Williams in Wales. There are container-ship loads of William Williams, but not one William Rufus, and the only bmd entry is his birth in 1900.
Ozi
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Here's 1891 for you, just in case you haven't seen it.
1891 Wales Census
Name: Henry William
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Canton
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 16 Eldon Rd
Occupation: Journeyman
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 39b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry William 42
Rose William 24 - tailoress; Bath
Maud William 5 - Bristol
Beatrice William 3 - Cardiff
Stella William 1/12 - Cardiff
Sarah William 14 - sister, Bristol
Here Henry is recorded as a journeyman which means he has to be a skilled artisan of some kind. As Rose is a tailoress, he being a tailor is quite plausible.
This has got to be the same family, but look at the age difference of Henry.
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Ozibird, No, not loads of William Rufuses, but loads of William R's and load of Rufus Williams. \Perhaps not the right age, but I didn't get to that stage.
Your 1891 census seems to be the same family as in 1901, and possibly 1911.
But it doesn't lead us to William Rufus Williams does it?
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No, this is very frustrating. I've been working on & off on this family today & they're doing my head in, as the saying goes!
Henry in 1891 & 1901 worries me. There's a big age difference, his occupation changes and he's born in Bath one census, and Cheltenham the next. I'm sure Rose and the children are the same. I just can't figure out the Henrys.
I've found a Henry Williams born Bath with a father who's a tailor in 1861.
1861 England Census
Name: Henry William
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Bridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bathwick
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Villa Fields
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Bathwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members:
Name Age
William William 51 - tailor; Bath
Bridge William 46 - Chardstock, Dorset [I think]
Henry William 11
Frank William 8
William William 5
Edward Williams 1
Richard Turner 72 - Relation; V?, Dorset
Children born Bath.
Ozi
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And again in 1871. He's not a tailor, but an upholsterer.
1871 England Census
Name: Henry Williams
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William L
Mother's Name: Bridgett
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath St Michael, Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Michael
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Upper Borough Walls/Wells[?]
Occupation: upholsterer
Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Abbey
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William L Williams 65
Bridgett Williams 55 - Chadstock, Dorset
Lewis Williams 26 - tailor; Kilmersdon, Somerset
Henry Williams 21
Frank Williams 19 - tailor
William Williams 15 - upholsterer
Edward Williams 10 - scholar
Children all born Bathwick, Bath, Somerset.
Marriages Mar 1849
Bird John Bath 11 6
Bowbeer Mary Ann Bath 11 6
England Ellinor Bath 11 6
Lewis Philip Bath 11 6
Manning Nicholas Bath 11 6
Stinnard Mary Bath 11 6
Turner Bridget Bath 11 6 <<<<<<<<<<<
Williams William Lewis Bath 11 6 <<<<<
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However this could be him in 1881, which means he's not Shirley's Henry.
1881 England Census
Name: Henry Williams
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 156 Bannbury Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Upholsterer
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Williams 30
Ellen Williams 32
Edith Williams 8
Frederick Rous 30
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