This could be Lydia Name: Lydia Ann Thomas Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Merthyr Tydfil County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 572
Also a possible for Rees Name: Rees Thomas Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Merthyr Tydfil County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 736
You and ask GRO for a match with Rees as father and Mary as mother, makes it a little less expensive and saves buying the incorrect certificate.
I have not been able to track a definite birth for Rees born circa 1860, surprisingly it is a common name and there are many born about that time in Mertyr Tydfil.
Gail
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Your welcome Anona. I also learnt loads about Wales today by google maps etc, was very interesting.
Gail
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Thank you so much for all your help. I was tearing my hair out. The occupation was coal Hewer on the 1901 Census. The family were all in coal mining. Thats why I was unsure about the entries on the 1891 and earlier census records. Will go with your suggestions and order certificate for one of the children. It could well turn out that there wasn't a marriage - have found that several times before on other branches of my tree. If anyone out there needs help with the Norfolk/ East Anglia side of England I am very happy to help as I was born there.
Thanks again Anona
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Possible Marriage for John and Lydia
Name: John Thomas Lydia Jones Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Merthyr Tydfil County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan Volume: 26 Page: 705
Still looking for marriage of Rees and Mary A . We will need to find Rees birth and you will need to order the birth cert to confirm his mothers maiden name. The marriage is only guesswork at this time, but put it on here as is the only marriage I could find at this time and had to search many records to find and did not want to lose it.
I would also suggest ordering one of Rees and Mary's childrens birth certificates to get the mothers maiden name, as difficult to find a marriage.
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These look promising. 1881 Name: Rees Thomas Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Relative (Other Relative) Gender: Male Where born: Dowlais Civil parish: Bedwellty County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: 12 Colliers Row Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: 22/2 Fireman Registration district: Bedwellty Sub-registration district: Tredegar ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Jones 60 Ann Jones 50 William Jones 25 Mary A. Lewis 23 Ef... Jones 17 Edward Lewis 2 Rees Thomas 20
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5248; Folio: 102; Page: 12; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342263.
1871 Name: Rees Thomas Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jno Mother's Name: Lydia Gender: Male Where born: Dowlais, Glamorganshire, Wales Civil parish: Dowlais Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais Town: Dowlais County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Jno Thomas 46 Lydia Thomas 45 Wm Thomas 20 Thos Thomas 17 Morgan Thomas 13 Rees Thomas 10 David Thomas 5 Thomas Thomas 52
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5398; Folio: 43; Page: 4; GSU roll: 849483.
1861 Name: Rees Thomas Age: 9 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Lydia Gender: Male Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Merthyr Tydfil Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais Town: Dowlais County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age John Thomas 35 Lydia Thomas 36 born Glalachay, Breconshire, Wales William Thomas 11 Thomas Thomas 6 Morgan Thomas 3 Rees Thomas 9 Mo
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4058; Folio: 74; Page: 18; GSU roll: 543227.
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1891 Census
Name: Rees Thomas Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais Town: Dowlais County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Rees Thomas 36 Mary Ann Thomas 24 Lydia Thomas 1 John Lewis 22 William Lewis 17 Henry Johnson 46 Edwin Osborn 25
Not sure as to occupation but think it is Cart Hauler? Street I cannot read for sure Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4439; Folio 67; Page 13; GSU roll: 6099549.
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Could you please put the parents year of birth and where etc to find them on the 1891 census. Or cut and paste the 1901 census, as I am having trouble finding them on the 1901 census.
Gail
Edit found the Census
Name: Rees Thomas Age in 1901: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais St John Town: Dowlais County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 138 Household Members: Name Age Rees Thomas 40 Mary A Thomas 34 Lydia Thomas 11 Rees Thomas 4 George Morgan 60 David Murphy 38 William Morris 24 Richard Morris 10 Albert Niblett 29
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5028; Folio: 96; Page: 29.
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I have found Rees Thomas b 1898 and his father Rees Thomas and mother Mary A in the 1901 Census for Wales but can't find the family in the 1891 Census. I am new to the Welsh Census and all the area around Dowlais, Glamorgan. I know Rees and Mary A had about 20 children and the son Rees Thomas was born in 1898 and married Phyllis Mary Wilkins. If anyone is used to working with this area in Wales and the problems hunting a surname like Thomas I would very much appreciate some help and advice. Anona
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