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17 Oct 2009 02:33 |
Hi Can anyone help with this? Looking for a family on the 1861 Evans, Thomas b. c1819 and wife Elizabeth living in West Ham Essex. They may have a son Matthew born 1856 and perhaps other children. Thanks very much. Brit
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17 Oct 2009 02:49 |
How did you get Matthew's parents?
There's this:
1861 England Census about Matthew Evans Name: Matthew Evans Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Father's Name: Adam Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: West Ham, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 344 Household Members: Name Age Adam Evans 45 Elizabeth Evans 44 Matthew Evans 5 Rose
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17 Oct 2009 03:02 |
Births Jun 1856 Evans Matthew W Ham 4a 22
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17 Oct 2009 04:30 |
do you have them on any other census?
I can't find a Thomas Evans b ca 1819 living in Essex, let alone one with wife Elizabeth and/or son Matthew.
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17 Oct 2009 06:04 |
Agree. I thought there would be lots of matches. have found this one on the LDS site. 1881 census.
Matthew EVANS Household Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year Birthplace Birmingham, Stafford, England Age 25 Occupation Soldier 5 Dragoons (Army) Marital Status M Head of Household Matthew EVANS Relation Lodger (Head) Disability -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 38 Back Barrack St Census Place Leeds, York, England Family History Library Film 1342089 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4530 / 23 Page Number 13
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17 Oct 2009 06:13 |
Any idea of Elizabeth's maiden name, date of their marriage, where they were married.
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17 Oct 2009 06:16 |
Is this them in the 1861 census. No Matthew. Will look at 1871 census.
Name: Thomas Evans Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Rochford, Essex, England Civil parish: Orsett County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Orsett Sub-registration district: Orsett ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Evans 42 Elizabeth Evans 40 Alfred Evans 14 Emely Evans 12 James Evans 9 William Evans 7 Caroline Maria Evans 4 George Charles Evans 1
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17 Oct 2009 06:36 |
Here are two possibilities. Matthew and mother Elizabeth in the 1891 census. What is Thomas date of death.
Name: Matthew Evans Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Canning Town, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Matthew Evans 35 Elizabeth Evans 70
Or you can have Matthew and mother Elizabeth remarried in the 1881 census.
Name: Matthew Evans Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Elizth. Gender: Male Where born: Canning Town ((W Ham)), Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 39 Wellington Pl Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Labourer Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 26b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizth. Colledge 60 Matthew Evans 25
Tell me if you have this info and I will delete it.
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17 Oct 2009 07:45 |
Hi THANK YOU all for helping!! I am so sorry, I haven't been able to sign back on to GR for ages, I have this problem with the sign in page, it keeps coming back and not letting me access anything. Finally got on so..
I was trying to find out about Elizabeth's first marriage because I was told she was the first wife of Joseph Colledge. I didn't have her maiden name but was told she was previously married to a Thomas Evans. I found her marriage to Joseph but not to anyone named Evans (since I didn't have her maiden name)
ROSE you do seem to have found her with her family on the 1861 and I think that it must have been Adam Evans not Thomas. I looked it upand found the death of an Adam Evans in 1870 in West Ham She married Joseph Colledge in 1871.
It would seem AUNTY SHERLOCK that this is her and Matthew then on the 1881. There is quite a story behind these people. I think Joseph must have left them as he is with another person on the 1881, although she is not his wife. Then on the 1891 he claims this other woman as his wife, but it looks as if Elizabeth is still living with Matthew but now going back to Evans.
Could they have divorced? Joseph married the other woman in 1903.
I will have to do some more checking now I have better facts, but I am too tired tonight.
Many thanks Rose, Sylvia and Aunty Sherlock, I do appreciate your looking all this up for me. It has been a great help. You are stars!!!
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17 Oct 2009 07:59 |
Hi again Just FYI I looked up the marriage of Adam Evans to Elizabeth and from the two Elizabeths for the date on BMD I found the right one on the IGI Elizabeth Harding. So now I have her maiden name as well.
Thanks for helping me solve this mystery!
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17 Oct 2009 08:09 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Adam Evans Name: Adam Evans Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Spouse Name: Elizabeth Harding Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 5 Jun 1855 Parish: Saint Marylebone County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: John Evans Spouse Father Name: Thomas Harding Rose
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