Genealogy Chat

Thank you ErinGoBragh1916 will have a look at that thanks.

Ref...as per 1881 Census..was Llanharen

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William DAVID Head M Male 59 Eglwyselan, Glamorgan, Wales Farmer 149 Acres
Ann DAVID Wife M Female 43 Lanwyno, Glamorgan, Wales
John DAVID Son U Male 18 Lanwyno, Glamorgan, Wales Farmer Son
Gwenllian DAVID Daur U Female 15 Lanwyno, Glamorgan, Wales Farmer Daughter
Evan DAVID Son Male 9 Lanharran, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Fanne REES Serv W Female 65 Lantwit Vardre, Glamorgan, Wales General Serv
Rachel THOMAS Serv U Female 28 Ystradgunlais, Glamorgan, Wales Domestic Serv
William RODRICK Serv Male 15 Lanharran, Glamorgan, Wales Farm Serv Indoor


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Source Information:
Dwelling White Hall
Census Place Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342283
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5328 / 141

Gloria ..I have checked through the 1881 Census Glam. for Evan David..and there are quite a few....the oldest being 82 yrs...Ag.Lab....
However I found a Wm David 59yrs Farmer with family and he has a son Evan ( dont they all) but also a daughter named Gwenlilian...same name as Leah and Edwards daughter...couldnt find another Gwenlilian in any other Davies family...wonder if he is related in any way...Unfortunately I am not familiar with Welsh places names so cannot judge if that is close to the area you are looking ?Llanwyno

I'm so grateful thank you both lets hope I'm on the right road will let you know thanks again for your tips.

Mary Rees is her sister
1851 Wales Census
about Leah David
Name: Leah David
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Lantrisant, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llandaff
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Rees 32
Mary Rees 26
Mary Ann Rees 5
Jane Rees 3
Thomas Rees 1
Ann Rees 55
Elizabeth David 19
Leah David 9
Thomas Thomas 29
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1841 Wales Census
about William David
Name: William David
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Llan Trisaint
Hundred: Miskin
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Llantrissent
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
William David 45
Elizabeth David 40
Mary David 15
Sarah David 15
William David 13
Phillip David 10
Elizabeth David 7
Richard David 5
Jemima David 3 Mo

Gloria
If you put father Evan as a checking point then if it's not the correct one you will only be charged £3.
Alternatively if you write to Cardiff giving name of father and enclose cheque if they can't find it they won't charge.
I usually phone the local office first and they will tell you what to do.
I have always found them helpful
Von

I think I'll send for the Birth certificate I have found for Leah David 1841 sep if it comes back, and her father is Evan and is Agricultural Laborer it must be her.
now to try and find her in 1851 census.

Gloria
You're welcome. Lets hope it's her.
Both my great grannies were Mary Davies, my great,great grannie was Rachel David but death registration was for Davies so I know how difficult it can be.
Fingers crossed
Von

thank you Corrinne that looks like him I have looked at this before.

thank you so much for all this help to you both much appreciated

Corrinne I don't think thats them they were from Llanaran not Monmouthshire.

thanks.

Oh thank you yes corrinne I am looking for Edward.
Von I'm 99% thats her in 1861 I'm so excited you are so clever I have been looking for about 2 yrs.

thank you thank you ha ha.
that is where she was at time of marriage, so to find her on earlier census and to try and find a birth cert, do I look for lea David?

Gloria.....If you can find an Evan...farm Lab. in the area on the 1861 Census then Leah (or ? another name ) should be living with her parents...Census was March/April '61 and she didnt marry until after Census if I am correct.

yes it was her first marriage it Say's she was a spinster.

thanks corrinne

Von that sounds promising I have access to Ancestry till end of the month.
I have had a search done but they couldn't find anything for leah Davies.
going to check ancestry now.

thank you Von

Gloria
Could this be her?
Births Sep 1841 (>99%)
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David Leah Cardiff 26 347

My Davies family used the name David before they became Davies. Took me ages to find them in 1841.
There is a Lea David in 1861census born in Llantrisant working as a servant.
I don't have access to the 1851census but maybe someone could check it out for you.
You could try contacting the Cardiff Register office and ask them if they can find her.Address
The Register Office, 48 Park Place, Cardiff, CF10 3LU.
Tel: 029 2087 1690. Fax: 029 2037 1109.
E-mail: [email protected].
I had to resort to local register offices for my Davies family.
Von

They were Married 9th april 1864 at the Tabernacle chapel bridgend Glamorgan.

Not a Problem Gloria...I am as puzzled as you ...What year was Edward and Leah married..?

Thank you eringobragh1916 for all your help my trouble is there are a lot of Evan and Davies about, I would just love to find Leah's Birth but don't know what to do now.

thank you.

Gloria ...Ag.lab. is a farm laborer..not a farmer .
I thought the address from leah's Mc may help pick up Evan somwhere...Nothing of any use...The area of Peterston Super Montem and Llanharan are about one and the same ..plenty of Davies around but no Evan....you could get someone (unless you have them) to check earlier Census for Evan

Hi Gloria

Yes, Ag Lab could be farmer. If he actually owned (unlikely) or rented a farm, it often says how many acres and mentions employees. Otherwise he probably worked on someone else's farm or possible had a few animals himself.

Margaret