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For a long time now i have been trying to find my gt gt grandmother's birth. "you kind people have tried helping me". Her name is Leah Davies birth 1841 Llanharan Glamorgan Wales, well I am not having much success so thought i would have a search done, i wrote to Glamorgan Records office and gave them all the information I have.Well this morning i received a letter back .Informing me they have made a search of the General Register office index of births in England and Wales and unfortunatley there is no Birth registered in Glamorgan for a Leah Davies in 1842 the closest entry we were able to find was for Leah Davies in 1843 in Llanelli.
we then made a search of the Glamorgan Family History Society's index to Baptisms churches and chapels in Glamorgan after 1837 and unfortunately Leah Davies does not appear on the index.
Finally we have also searched the census for 1851 and 1861 and been unable to find Leah Davies that matches the information provided.


I definitely think my gt gt granmother was born in Glamorgan not Llanelli.
on 1911 census and others after her Marriage Place of birth LLanharan Glamorgan.

any help please on what to do now .


Thank you

You might just have to accept that you will never find it. Maybe she wasn't baptised and it doesn't appear that her birth was registered.

If it is her parents names that you are trying to find, can you find a birth for one of her siblings and order that cert instead?

Sam x

I don't know if she had any siblings I can only find her after her Marriage.

thanks Sam

Gloria

I've found a Leah Davies on Ancestry married to Edward and born in Llanharan. Is this the Leah you're looking for, if so Davies was her married name so won't show in the birth indexes under that name, do you have her maiden name?

1901 Wales Census
about Leah Davies
Name: Leah Davies
Age in 1901: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterstone Sufer Ely, Glamorgan, Wales
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1891 Wales Census
about Leah Davies
Name: Leah Davies
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterson Super Ely, Glamorgan, Wales
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1871
Name: Leah Davies
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Pendoylan, Glamorganshire, Wales

yes thats Leah with Edward and children her Maiden name was also Davies!!!.

I can't find her Birth neither can I find her on any census before her Marriage.

I have a marriage certificate with her Father's name down as Evan.

For ref. Census 1881

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Edward DAVIES Head M Male 38 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales Coalminer
Leah DAVIES Wife M Female 40 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales
Gomer DAVIES Son U Male 17 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales Eng Driv Stoker At Colliery
Evan DAVIES Son U Male 15 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales Coalminer Doorer At Colliery
William DAVIES Son Male 13 St Georges, Glamorgan, Wales Labourer At Colliery
Richard DAVIES Son Male 11 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Gwenllian DAVIES Daur Female 6 Llanharan, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Tonyrefail (Collenna Rd)
Census Place Llantrisant, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342275
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5298 / 104
Page Number 11

Thanks you all I just wish I could find her Birth for Mothers name,
don't know what else I can do.

1851 was she born Leah?
Elizabeth Davies Evan,(farmer)
Ann abt 1839 Pendinlon, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Llantrisant, Glamorgan
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1861
Elizabeth Davies abt 1843 Pendoylan, Glamorgan, Wales Servant Llantrisant, Glamorgan

Gloria ....What was her address from her MC...?

I don't know jim sorry I am only going by census after Marriage that sounds promising Jim but why on everything else would she call herself Leah and on 1911 census where they filled them in them selfs so I would thought less mistakes.
her residence at time of Marriage was peterstone super montem.

could Leah be short for Elizabeth ?

thank you all for helping me most appreciated

On marriage certificate of Leah her father's occupation was
Agricultural labourer, could that be Farmer.?

Hi Gloria

Yes, Ag Lab could be farmer. If he actually owned (unlikely) or rented a farm, it often says how many acres and mentions employees. Otherwise he probably worked on someone else's farm or possible had a few animals himself.

Margaret

Gloria ...Ag.lab. is a farm laborer..not a farmer .
I thought the address from leah's Mc may help pick up Evan somwhere...Nothing of any use...The area of Peterston Super Montem and Llanharan are about one and the same ..plenty of Davies around but no Evan....you could get someone (unless you have them) to check earlier Census for Evan

Thank you eringobragh1916 for all your help my trouble is there are a lot of Evan and Davies about, I would just love to find Leah's Birth but don't know what to do now.

thank you.

Not a Problem Gloria...I am as puzzled as you ...What year was Edward and Leah married..?

They were Married 9th april 1864 at the Tabernacle chapel bridgend Glamorgan.

Gloria
Could this be her?
Births Sep 1841 (>99%)
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David Leah Cardiff 26 347

My Davies family used the name David before they became Davies. Took me ages to find them in 1841.
There is a Lea David in 1861census born in Llantrisant working as a servant.
I don't have access to the 1851census but maybe someone could check it out for you.
You could try contacting the Cardiff Register office and ask them if they can find her.Address
The Register Office, 48 Park Place, Cardiff, CF10 3LU.
Tel: 029 2087 1690. Fax: 029 2037 1109.
E-mail: [email protected].
I had to resort to local register offices for my Davies family.
Von

Von that sounds promising I have access to Ancestry till end of the month.
I have had a search done but they couldn't find anything for leah Davies.
going to check ancestry now.

thank you Von

yes it was her first marriage it Say's she was a spinster.

thanks corrinne