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Hi Heather :-)
Long story - Short.
Edward Lee b:c1868 is a mystery. He always had his birth place as Surrey London. He can be found in the Ardwick Industrial School in 1881. He married Emily Oliver in 1889. Always born in Surrey or just London on the Census entries from 1891 - 1901. But it is the 1911 Census that beared fruit in that he has written he was born in Walworth Surrey London.
Myself and my cousin have looked [well I've lost count how many times] - but this entry of 1871 is the only one that has an Edward as a child and Charles as father - no other census entry comes this close to a possibility.....sadly no mother is mention on Edwards marriage certif of 1889 - which leaves us with Edward lee whose father is Charles who was supposed to be a Stone Mason.
Cheers - Steve.
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1861: Ann shown born Hampshire, Hunton. Dad John is a gardener from Kent.
Name: Ann Lee
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Hunton, Hampshire, England
Name: Charles Lee
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lee 40
Ann Lee 42
Charles Lee 12
Sarah Lee 5
Emma Lee 1
Same lot in 1851 Dad is a coachman.
Name: Charles Lee
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Barton, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Brixton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lee 30
Ann Lee 32
Charles Lee 2
John H Lee 10 Mo
Ann Mundy 22
Maria E Mundy 1
Maria Mundy 34
Looks like Anns rellie visiting:
Name: Maria Mundy
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Hunton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Brixton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
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hi steve i have looked for the family before and after 1871 but cant find any trace i thought maybe they had made an error with her date of birth
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Are you sure its the right Charles Lee? Its a common name. Did he marry? Who did he marry? Have you got his fathers name?
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Hi Polly :-)
My confusion is that Ann Lee b:1845 is Head of the Household and is Widowed which is straight forward but her supposed children Charles Lee b:1849 & Sarah Lee b:1848 are only 5 or so years younger in age? This doesn't make sense at all....I have looked at the image many times - nothing gels.
Cheers - Steve.
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hi this is what i found on here
1871 census
Name Charles Lee
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household SON
Occupation HAWKER
Address 14 LITTLE PARK PLACE
District St Saviour Southwark, St Peter Walworth
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Newington
Birth County SURREY
in house
ann lee head widow 25
charles son 22
edward grandson 1
sarah daughter married 23
anns details from 1871
1871 census
Name Ann Lee
Age 26
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation HAWKER
Address 14 LITTLE PARK PLACE
District St Saviour Southwark, St Peter Walworth
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Halton
Birth County HAMPSHIRE
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Hi Alan :-)
Excuse my ignorance - What is FMP?
Cheers - Steve.
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This looks like an Ancestry Census..................perhaps someone with access to FMP could help ?
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Hi All :-)
My brick wall within the census is the following - still scratch my head when ever I reread it.
1871 England Census
about Charles Lee
Name: Charles Lee
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Lee 26 - Head
Charles Lee 22 - Son
Edward Lee 1 - Grandson
Sarah Lee 23 - Daughter
Take a look at the original census taking....the enumerator must have had a rum or 3 on there house to house calls....the child Edward is my Great Grandfather - Charles was his father going by Edwards marriage certificate of 1889 [on the certificate he is written as being a Stone Mason and not a Hawker – gilding the lily a fraction] .Anybody who can make out this household deserves an award. Especially Making out who Ann is has me especially puzzled. ;-)
Any thoughts would be most welcome :-)
Cheers - Steve.
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