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Hi
can ant one help me to find my gg grandad he was born in 1898 in bradfield but i cannot find him in the 1901 census where do i go now
Many Thanks
Julie

We'd love to Julie - could you give us his name?

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Hi
Sorry his name is Francis Albert Annetts
Born 1898 in Bradfield near Reading

Many Thanks


Julie

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This looks like the family in 1911

HOUSEHOLD ANNETTS ELIZABETH F 1861 50 Reading Berkshire
HOUSEHOLD ANNETTS FREDEICK M 1894 17 Reading Berkshire
HOUSEHOLD ANNETTS JESSEAL M 1858 53 Reading Berkshire
HOUSEHOLD ANNETTS FRANCES M 1899 12 Reading Berkshire

And the birth registration for Frederick shows he was also born in Bradfield.

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
Annetts Frederick John Bradfield 2c 312

Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
Annetts Francis Albert Bradfield 2c 321

Still looking for 1901 - being very tricky!!!!

NinjaLaday

Thank you for your reply

Why do they not show up on the 1901 census ?

And you found them on 1911 census

Many Thanks
Julie

Have you looked at the original of the 1911? Jesseal seems like an odd name for the father and it could be a mistranscription. It would be very useful to know what the correct name is and where he and Elizabeth were born.

EDIT - they've probably been mistranscribed on the 1901 so the birth information and correct name for Francis' father from the 1911 would be useful to try and trace them.

Have you got a copy of Francis' birth certificate? This will give more information on his parents and will help trace them in 1901.

Alternatively Francis' marriage certificate will give the name and occupation of his father which will help in the search.

Hi

As far as i know he never got married as i can't find him any where

Thanks

Julie

Julie,
Somebody has Francis Annetts, born 1898 in Bradfield, Berkshire, on their GR tree.
Perhaps you could send them a message for more information?
Jenny.

Here's Francis in 1927 going to Canada with his family

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Francis Albert Annetts
Name: Francis Albert Annetts
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 10 Apr 1927
Vessel: Arabic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Arabic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Roll: T-14809

Travelling with him were his wife Dorothy and children Rosetta 1920, Vera 1922, Kathleen 1924, Francis 1925 and Joyce 1926.

Is this your family?

And here's the family coming back again

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Francis Annetts
Name: Francis Annetts
Birth Date: abt 1896
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Montrã©AL, Quã©Bec, Canada
Arrival Date: 13 May 1929
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec, Southampton
Ship Name: Calgaric
Search Ship Database: View the 'Calgaric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 140579

He's with Dorothy, Rosetta aged 10, Vera aged 7, Kathleen aged 5, Francis aged 4, Joyce aged 2 and Theresa aged 1 (born in Canada).

Their proposed address in the UK was 18 Wigtown Road, Well Hall, Eltham, London SE9. Does this ring any bells?

Have sent you a PM with birth registrations for these children plus some later ones.

This is why you haven't found his marriage - his names were the wrong way round!!!

Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
Annetts Albert F Gedge Woolwich 1d 2636
Gedge Dorothy L E Annetts Woolwich 1d 2636

There is another tree owner on GR who has Frederick Annetts born Bradfield in his tree so it might also be worth sending him a message.

If you use the Search Trees facility above and put in the details of the person you can then click on the tree owners name and send them a message.

Hi NinjaLady

Thank you so much for all the information and help that you have given me.

How did you find all that information?
All so what is a PM? Sorry but dont.

Thanks again

Julie

Hi NinjaLady

Thank you so much for all the information and help that you have given me.

How did you find all that information?
All so what is a PM? Sorry but dont.

Thanks again

Julie

Hi Julie

A PM is a private message - if you look in your inbox you will find it there! I sent a private message as the youngest child was born in 1935 and could well still be alive.

I found the passenger lists - outgoing and incoming on Ancestry. I then did a check on Freebmd for birth registrations for the children on the passenger lists. This revealed that their mothers maiden name was Gedge.

So, knowing that there didn't appear to be a marriage showing up for Francis Albert Annetts and knowing that his wife's name on the passenger lists was Dorothy I then went back to Freebmd and looked for a marriage for Dorothy Gedge just prior to 1920 which was when the first child was born. This brought up the marriage I posted below.

Which one of the children was your grandparent?

Personally I would now buy either the birth certificate or marriage certificate for Francis so that you can confidently take the next step backwards. I woud also buy some credits for the 1911

http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk

and checkout the original page to see what is going on there. 60 credits will cost approx £6.95 and to view the original page will cost 30 credits. Unfortunately I think you'll have to look at the original to see if the transcriber has mid-read the name for the head of the house.

If you need any more help once you have that information then do post on this thread again.

Good luck!!

Hmmm, I'm thinking that Frederick and Francis may not be living with their parents in 1911 - there's this marriage in 1909 for an Isreal Annetts which could be Jesseal!!

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
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AMOR Mary Ann Reading 2c 927
ANNETTS Israel Reading 2c 927
HERMON Francis William Reading 2c 927
NORKETT Elizabeth Reading 2c 927

You definitely should check out the 1911 properly!!

There is a previous marriage for an Israel Annets

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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Annets Israel Kingsclere 2c 483
Bowsher Charles Kingsclere 2c 483
BOWSMER Charles Kingsclere 2c 483
Faithful Caroline Kingsclere 2c 483
KEELING Mary Kingsclere 2c 483

Woohoo!!!! Think I've found them and Israel is their father. Its possible the enumerator misheard Israel as Ezra.

1901 England Census
about Caroline Annett
Name: Caroline Annett
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ezra
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashmansworth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Caversham
Ecclesiastical parish: Caversham St Peter
Town: Caversham
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Henley
Sub-registration district: Caversham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 164
Household Members: Name Age
Ezra Annett 44 ...born Great Bedwyn, Wilts
Caroline Annett 45 ...born Ashmansworth, Hants
Ester Annett 19 ...born Ashmansworth
George Annett 12 ...born Ashmansworth
Minney Annett 9 ...born Stanford Dingley
>>>>John Annett 7 ...born Stanford Dingley
Walter Annett 5 ...born Stanford Dingley
Beatrice Annett 4 ...born Burghfield
>>>>>Albert Annett 2 ....born Burghfield



Stanford Dingley and Burghfield are in the Bradfield registration district. Looks like Frederick and Francis were being called by their middle names.

Looks like this could be the death of Francis' mother, so the Elizabeth on the 1911 (marriage to Israel in 1909) would be Francis' step-mother.

Deaths Dec 1901 (>99%)
ANNETTS Caroline 46 Henley 3a 496


You really need to get certificates to double check this!!


One of the tree owners mentioned previously has all the names of the children from the 1901 in his tree - it really would be worth sending him a message!!