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Olwyn
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10 Jun 2009 16:16 |
Hi all. For years I have been placing flowers on a previously unmarked grave of an Ann Burns whom I and other family members believed to be our great great grandmother (Spion Kop cemetry Hartlepool). Imagine our surprise when only last week we found out this was the wrong Ann Burns also born in 1832, and lived in the same street. We have been unable to locate the death of Ann Burns also her husband David. So that we may put flowers on the correct grave! They were married in Hartlepool in 1874, 9th October. Please can anyone help? Thank you so much. Olwyn
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Jun 2009 16:37 |
when was the last sighting of them .do you have them on any census .
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10 Jun 2009 16:42 |
is this them on the 1881 census Name: Ann Burns Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: David Gender: Female Where born: Robin Hood Bay, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 3 Wood St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Burns 47 occ Sailor Ann Burns 47 William Grainger 17 son Fredrick Harding 17 Lodger
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4906; Folio: 137; Page: 52; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342180.
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Alan
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10 Jun 2009 16:42 |
This of any help ?
Name: Ann Burns Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 67 District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 90 (click to see
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Alan
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10 Jun 2009 16:47 |
A possibility for David ?
Name: David Burns Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 71 District: South Shields County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 484 (click to see ot
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10 Jun 2009 16:50 |
Just for info this looks like son william on the 1901 census Name: William Grainger Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Bridget Gender: Male Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England Civil parish: Hartlepool Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool St Hilda County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:21 George Street
Occupation:Shipyard Labourer
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 255 Household Members: Name Age William Grainger 36 Bridget Grainger 33 William Grainger 9 James Grainger 8 Eva Grainger 3 Margaret Grainger 1 View O
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4635; Folio: 117; Page: 42.
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10 Jun 2009 16:57 |
Ann on the 1891 census Name: Ann Burns Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Robin Hoods Bay, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hartlepool Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool St Hildas Town: Hartlepool County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:9 Wood Street
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Condition as to marriage:WIDOW
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Burton 53 occ Mariner (Seas) Jane Burton 49 Jane Burton 20 Robt H Burton 17 Mary Ann Burton 15 Harriett Burton 13 Ann Burns 58
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4059; Folio 144; Page 12; GSU roll: 6099169.
Interesting then she is a widow by 1891 so maybe David died at Sea. She is living in the same street as the 1881 census but 4 doors away at no 9
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10 Jun 2009 17:05 |
Cant find her on the 1901 census but picked up the same death as Alan . Right reg district too as per the 1891 census Name: Ann Burns Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 67 District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 90
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Alan
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10 Jun 2009 17:09 |
Anyone seen Olwyn ??
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Jun 2009 17:21 |
Perhaps the one who died in 1882 aged 71 was his dad as David was only 47 on the 1881 census
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Olwyn
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10 Jun 2009 20:18 |
Hi again Sorry, i had to go out. All census info spot on! Deaths; David - He was 42 when marrying Ann Oct 1874, so was born 1832ish depending on birthdate. Only info i have is, he was a Scottish sailor. Sadly, it doesnt seem that he can be either of those you have kindly located, as first 1 reg in 1904; 2nd one born around 1811. Great searching, I will get a copy cert anyway, as you say could be his Dad.
Death Ann This is where I went wrong, very coincidently, this Ann was the same age, and lived in the same street, different no, her husband named John, son James. She died in sad circumstances outside her house. On the son's death cert states father John signed with a cross, whereas David Burns signed his marriage cert as David Burns - no middle name stated . James Burns is buried with his mother Ann Burns at the cemetry you have identified, which is where we keep putting flowers. Incidently, Wood street figures greatly in my family, they have lived at many different houses there.
Perhaps David did die at sea, what is best way to find that out? I have really enjoyed your help.
Thank you so much Olwyn
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