Genealogy Chat

I'm surprised his middle name is Charles because he has a brother with that name.

Rose

Can you post the 1881,1891 census for the family?

I know the first names are round the wrong way but I've had a few ancestors do this.

Births Jun 1883
Banks Charles Henry Mile End 1c 504

he may have been born on the border of Hackney & Bethnal Green or Hackney & Islington so may put Hackney as place of birth but may have been registered in neighbouring borough, just a thought. good luck with your searches.
Gary

Yes, thanks for all that, I shall resume my searching. I've got a few Henry Charles on my spreadsheet who are within the 1882-1886 range but was hoping to find one for Hackney, which has been his place of birth throughout.

The marriage cert states 1886, the headstone 1883 so I shall just persevere. Were any details lost in the London blitz?

Hi,
what about
Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Banks Henry Charles Islington 1b 323

Gary

Can you put down the date of death and the date of the marriage. Depending on when his birthday fell you need to allow a two year span ...

Jill

Thanks for all the info, I'd been working on the principle that the headstone and marriage certificate were the bedrock of my search!

Yes, I've looked on Roots BMD and have made a spreadsheet of all the Henry Charles Banks born in the Hackney/Bethnal Green area (3) and guess what? There isn't one for 1883 (age given at 1891 census). There's one for Dec 1885 (Camberwell) and one for Sept 1889 (Fulham).

His marriage certificate gives his father as William Banks, a shoemaker. I've found him, he's married to Mary Ann with a whole string of children which ties in with what my Uncle has told me. My grandfather left home and moved to south Wales in 1901 (he was on both census - the London one has changed his birthplace from Hackney to Llandudno in Wales, but he is also on the 1901 Wales census, this ties in with family history as well.)

Back to the drawing board, then. Any more hints would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help.

His age is more likely to be correct on the earliest census he is on (which would probably be the 1891 census).

Death certificates and marriage certificates often have the wrong age on them and headstones are no better. My grandmother's headstone has her age out by 2 years, her marriage certificate has her age out by 5 years - and I know I have the right marriage certificate as it is the original.

What is your grandfather's name and what is his father's name from the marriage certificate?

Kath. x

Do you have his marriage cert? What is his fathers name and occupation?
Death information is only as reliable as the informant knew it to be..

The census can be out by a year

Have you looked for the birth on

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Hi
I'm having problems finding my grandfather's birth certificate because of his year of birth:
on his headstone, he died in 1954 aged 71 (YoB 1883);
on his marriage cert (1912) his age is given as 26 (YoB 1886).
The ages on the census records differ, too, with YoB given as 1882 and 1883
Because of this, I'm having great problems finding his birth certificate.
Any suggestions?