Genealogy Chat

Received a PM from Sandra, wonder if we can help her take this further

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I have Maggie Sparkes marriage cert. Her father was Henry JOHN Sparkes .My g grandfather being Henry Walter Sparkes. Of course it is possible to have brothers with the same first name!?and Maggie was born in 1898. They are not showing up on any censuses. H.J. deceased by1920 time of marriage

Thank you Pete, perhaps 1854 was a typo.

So here are Nellie's parents (I think).

Marriages Sep 1881
HOLLETT Margaret Elizabeth Newton A. 5b 253
Sparkes Henry Walter Newton A. 5b 253

I hope someone can find Maggie. Would be very grateful if someone could look at the 1901 just in case Maggie pops up with Nellie,

Selena

Hollett/Sparkes marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
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HOLLETT Margaret Elizabeth Newton A. 5b 253
HUNT Robert Newton A. 5b 253
PEPPRELL Annie Eliza Newton A. 5b 253
Sparkes Henry Walter Newton A. 5b 253

1891 census:

Piece: RG12/1686 Place: St Thomas -Devon Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Kenn Ecclesiastical Parish: Kenn
Folio: 11 Page: 15 Schedule: 101
Address: Baker's Shop



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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HOLLETT Fredrick Head W M 60 Baker (Employer) Devon - Kenn
HOLLETT Thomas Son S M 29 Baker (Employee) Devon - Kennford
HOLLETT Emma Dau S F 27 Shop Assistant (Employee) Devon - Kennford
HOLLETT William H Son S M 23 Baker (Employee) Devon - Kennford
HOLLETT Gertrude Dau S F 20 Shop Assistant (Employee) Devon - Kennford
SPARKS Fredrick Grnson S M 6 Scholar Devon - Torquay
SPARKS Nellie J Grndau S F 5 Scholar Devon - Torquay
GRIBBLE John Servnt S M 31 Baker (Employee) Devon - Kenn


This would put Frederick's birth c1884

Sandra has confirmed that Nellie and William are her grandparents so looks like we are on the right track.

Could anyone please find Nellie on the 1891/1901, I think this is her birth

Births Jun 1885
Sparkes Nellie Jane Newton A. 5b 144

Sandra also said that Nellie had a brother Frederick born 1854 but that would make him quite a bit older than her?

Fingers crossed for the 1891/1901 as we are still trying to find out more about Maggie Sparkes

Many thanks to anyone who can help

Wonder if Joan was Betty Joan. Mothers maiden name Sparkes

Births Dec 1921
Sanders Betty J Sparkes Devonport 5b 486

Any relations here?

Marriages Jun 1906
DYMOTT William Ernest T Devonport 5b 757
Sparkes Nellie Jane Devonport 5b 757

Births Sep 1912 (mothers maiden name Sparkes)
Dymott Frederick R S Sparkes Plymouth 5b 345

The Devon FHS "Plymouth Marriage index" shows this marriage

Groom SANDERS, WILLIAM JOHN
Bride SPARKES, MAGGIE
Date: 7 April 1920
Church: ST PETER


The GRO reference details are:

Name SPARKES Maggie
Year 1920
Qtr April - June
District Plymouth
Volume.5b
Page 687

Pete

Do you know Maggie's maiden name?

Sorry I dont know when she Maggie died either phew!!

Dear Kathleen Maggie was cousin. My fathers name was Fernley Dymott born 1908 Thanks for showing an interest.

Which of these people was a cousin of your fathers? Was it William, Margaret or Joan?

Your father's name would help too.

Kath. x

WilliamJ Sanders year and place of birth unknown. Living in Plymouth included in 1952 telephone directory. married to Maggie Sanders year place of birth unknown. Date of marriage unknown. They had a daughter Joan Sanders who died aged 19.Isaw Maggie in about 1949 . I have searched through marriages phone book entries. Iam beginning to think Maggie was not Margaret and Joan was not the first name of their daughter,I have been looking through deaths for her . MYfather was born in 1908 and she had been alive then . They were cousins. My father was an only child. Is this a hopeless case? Any suggestions gratefully received. Ihave noticed you do seem to be able to work miracles here. Best wishes to everyone