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Adam

Adam Report 12 Mar 2009 05:41

thanks ozibird Alice is Elliotts mother they must of lived next door to each other

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Mar 2009 20:55

So it's not only 1851 she says she was born in Gosport.

1861 England Census
Name: Margaret Lees
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Elliott
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Spotland
Ecclesiastical parish: Spotland St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: No 2 Forda, Farm House

Occupation: Coal miner's wife

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Further Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Elliott Lees 32
Margaret Lees 30
John Thos Lees 9
James Lees 7
Mary Lees 5
Sarah Lees 3
Alice Lees 6 Mo


Next household
1861 England Census
Name: Alice Lees
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Spotland
Ecclesiastical parish: Spotland St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Banks, Farm House

Occupation: Farmer of 8 acres

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Further Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Lees 69
Robert Lees 45 - coal miner
Thomas Lees 39 - coal miner

All born Rochdale except Margaret.

Adam

Adam Report 11 Mar 2009 20:24

just looked on lancashire bmd and there are 31 marriages of John Schofield from 1837 to 1847 in Rochdale so it looks like a very common name indeed

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Mar 2009 20:12

Sorry Adam - they all married John Schofield!!!!
I assume it is a very common name in Rochdale. I found them on on www.familysearch.org.
I'm at this point myself with a list of possible wives and my next step is to travel across country to check on the original Parish Registers to try and work out which one.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 11 Mar 2009 19:42

SARAH HEALEY
Spouse: JOHN SCHOFIELD
Marriage: 02 MAR 1830 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England


ALICE STOTT
Spouse: JOHN SCHOFIELD
Marriage: 17 FEB 1830 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Adam

Adam Report 11 Mar 2009 19:31

SARAH HEALEY
Marriage: 02 MAR 1830 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

does this record from the igi not give her grooms name?

Adam

Adam Report 11 Mar 2009 19:24

In the later census she says she was born in Gosport Hampshire though this is what's throwing me !!!!!!!

your all brilliant though x

Alice stott was Margaret's witness in her wedding in 1851 could she be related?

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Mar 2009 15:37

i once went off on a tangent and found an Admiral - got very confused because there was a real Admiral with the same surname.

Heather

Heather Report 11 Mar 2009 15:14

Cor, I bet he got some ribbing with that name :)

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Mar 2009 09:16

here's a couple more of interest from the IGI -
ALICE STOTT
Marriage: 17 FEB 1830 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

SARAH CROSSLEY
Marriage: 06 AUG 1828 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Either a serial marrier or all brothers had the same name!!!!!

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Mar 2009 08:54

How about this marriage from the IGI--

SARAH KNIGHT
Marriage: 20 JUN 1830 St Mary'S Church, Oldham, Lancashire, England

Or even this one -
SARAH HEALEY
Marriage: 02 MAR 1830 St Chad'S Church, Rochdale, Lancashire, England



It's not too far from Rochdale.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Mar 2009 07:21

Is this one of Sylvia's Majors?

There's a lot of similar names here. I bet they're all related somewhere down the track.

1841 England Census
Name: Margaret Schofield
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Ogden St

Occupation:

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Wardleworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Schofield 30 - sawyer
Violet Schofield 30
Margaret Schofield 10
Jane Schofield 8
Robert Schofield 1
Mager Schofield 4 Mo

All born in county.

Adam

Adam Report 11 Mar 2009 07:07

Thank you very much girls

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Mar 2009 21:36

Selena posted

Not sure if this is a brother but if so it will give mum's maiden name

Births Mar 1841
SCHOFIELD Major Rochdale 21 46_


I don't think that is correct



There are 3 + 1 Major Schofields born ca 1842 on the 1861 Census

James Major Schofield, John, Rachael abt 1844 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Spotland, Lancashire

Major Schofield abt 1842 Ireland Canterbury St Mary Northgate, Kent

Major Schofield, Edmund, Mary abt 1846 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Spotland, Lancashire

Major Schofield, James, Martha abt 1839 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Wardleworth, Lancashire



The 1851 Census I found said that Major was born in Ireland ........ this one was on the 1861 Census


I wonder if he joined the same forces as his father??????


1861 Census

Name: Major Schofield
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Canterbury St Mary Northgate
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Canterbury
Sub registration district: Canterbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Permanent Infantry <<<<<<<<<





sylvia

Adam

Adam Report 10 Mar 2009 21:25

Thats brill how can i find out what he was? is this too early for army records???

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2009 21:23

Not sure if this is a brother but if so it will give mum's maiden name

Births Mar 1841
SCHOFIELD Major Rochdale 21 46_

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Mar 2009 21:22

Sarah is a widow on the 1851 Census


but as George was born in 1847 in Rochdale, maybe John died in Lancashire, or in the UK?




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Mar 2009 21:20

could this be the reason why they can't be found on the 1841 census??


taken from the 1851 Census

Name: Major Schofield
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Irl B Subject <<<<<<<<

Civil Parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



and


Name: Jane Schofield
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: East Inders B Subject <<<<<<<<

Civil Parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England




George was born in Lancashire in 1847



It looks as though John was in the Navy or possibly Marines and was serving elsewhere ..... either Ireland or East Indies




sylvia

Adam

Adam Report 10 Mar 2009 21:17

Thank you very very much guys her father was a soldier on the marriage cert so maybe he was out of the country at census times or maybe already dead ?????

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 10 Mar 2009 21:14

ROBERT SCHOFIELD Christening: 30 JUN 1839 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Father: JOHN SCHOFIELD
Mother: SARAH

wonder if this next one is right in Rochdale

Mary Ann Schofield Birth:
Christening: 25 MAY 1830 Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Father: John Schofield
Mother: Sarah