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Hilary
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21 Oct 2008 11:42 |
Please can anyone suggest how I can find 'Upper Gloucester Street"?
An ancestor - Florence Mary Ann Manser, was born "12 Gloucester Street", Holborn, sub-district Goswell Street, May 27, 1881 .... i.e., a few months after the census?
I cannot find her family anywhere on the census - and thought I could 'walk' through the residential addresses for nearby households to see who was living there during the census. But, I cannot pinpoint 'Upper' Gloucester Street even on old maps to do this.
Can any one help please? Very many thanks in advance. Hille
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KathleenBell
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21 Oct 2008 11:55 |
Do you have her mother's name?
There is this person living in Goswell Street sub-registration district. Just wondered if the name was mistranscribed as the actual image is dreadful:-
Name: Lucy Marner Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Gender: Female Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Clerkenwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 4 Goswell Terr Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Milliner Registration district: Holborn Sub registration district: Goswell Street ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily Golding 47 Jane Hewitt 18 Eliza Kiddell 60 ***Lucy Marner 33***
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 357; Folio: 108; Page: 65; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341077.
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Hilary
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21 Oct 2008 12:32 |
HI Katherine,
Many thanks for looking! :0) ... Manser does turn up quite a few variations, but not sadly this record...
The household should comprise:
Charles [William] Manser - French Polisher - he may not be in the household of course, as 10 years later I found the family living with another man. I can't find a death record for him though.
Sarah [Ann] Manser - in 1891 census as "leaf work / artificial florist worker" Charles - son - would be aged appx 7 Sarah [Ann] - daughter - would be aged appx 4 Esther - daughter - would be aged appx 2
In 30-40 years the family never strayed more than about 2 miles or so of this part of London, so even if Charles Manser, the father has 'disappeared', the rest of the family should be somewhere ... and I've exhausted myself searching, so any fresh ideas and eyes would be very welcome! Many thanks Hilary
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Potty
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21 Oct 2008 13:05 |
Is it Gloucester Street, or Upper Gloucester Street that you are looking for?
I have found the census records of Gloucester Street - BUT there is no No 12! It goes from 11 to 13.
I found the records by doing a search for Florence (no Surname); Parish Holborn; DOB1880; Street Gloucester (don't type in St)
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Hilary
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21 Oct 2008 14:26 |
Hello Potty,
Wow! Just finding Gloucester Street is amazing .. on the birth certificate it says '12 Gloucester Street"[Reg district: Holborn, Sub-Reg: Goswell Street] ... and as there are no names approximating to any of the family in Gloucester Street .. perhaps it IS Upper Gloucester Street?
Although, I would have thought that Florence was born after the census... so, one of the other siblings? Many thanks Hilary
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John
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21 Oct 2008 14:35 |
Hallo Hilary Upper Gloucester Street and Gloucester Street are now the two halves of Gloucester Way - adjoining the Family Records Centre building in Myddleton Street! There is a beautiful map on www*mappalondon*com/london/north-east/clerkenwell*jpg. Best wishes John
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Hilary
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21 Oct 2008 14:38 |
Hello again,
Just to say I did look at Gloucester Street - and thanks for helping to find it!
Now for ..Upper Gloucester Street .... NB... I've been on/off this particular trail (i.e., where were they in 1881, and what happened to Charles Manser) for 4 years and a breakthrough would be so wonderful! Many thanks
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Potty
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21 Oct 2008 15:26 |
Hilary
There appear to be Enumeration districts for that area - both with the same description of streets covered. I can't remember which one Gloucester Street was in (either 11a or 11b) but if you bring up the image at the top it will have the district No. If you click on that it will bring up a list of districts. If you click on the other district No, you could browse through those pages - you never know Upper Gloucester Street might be there!
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Hilary
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22 Oct 2008 13:04 |
Hello John ... just to say many thanks for the link to Mappa London .. as you say: beautiful!
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