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John had a sister called Eileen and another called Nora we have there birth years as these are my husband's aunts.
The two in 1924 are twins born from John Ensor and Ellen Touhy, Honora youngers sister the one he run off with in 1923
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Marriages Jun 1927
FULLER John E H Tuohy Chelsea 1a 968
Tuohy Ellen Fuller Chelsea 1a 968
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Marriages Mar 1880
Fuller John Ensor H Salford 8d 82
Hope Helen Salford 8d 82
Any good?
Ok..lol..didnt see it :)
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Posting these for info ONLY..............
John P Fuller 1919 Apr-May-Jun Touhy Fulham Greater London, London, Middlesex
Eileen Fuller 1924 Jan-Feb-Mar Tuohy St Marylebone (1902-1977) Greater London, London
John P Fuller 1924 Jan-Feb-Mar Tuohy St Marylebone (1902-1977) Greater London, London
If John Patrick born 1919 was the youngest of three...........who were his siblings? When and where were they born?
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After tracing my family tree for years I have now made a start on my Hubbies side and have hit a problem.
Please take a look and see where you think.
Any help or surgestions will be greatfully appreciated.
John Paterick Fuller born 1919 Fullham (I have birth cit)
He was the youngest of 3 children
Mother Honoria Touhy (born Ireland 1887)
Father John Ensor Hope Fuller.
( I have found no marrage certificate for them)
John Ensor hope Fuller laft the family whan John Paterick was only 4 years old so no info from family i'am afraid.
Going back I found a marriage for John Ensor Hope Fuller 1880 in Salford Lancaster To Helen Hope aged 23 Spinster.
( three child were born form this marriage )
He was aged 25/ bachalor /coachman /Address Brighton/ fathers name John Fuller also Coachman.
After finding John and Helen on the1881, 1891 and 1901 census I find he says he was born.( Helen also spelt Ellen)
London in 1881. Brighton in 1891 and Brighton in 1901
so I belive it is most likely Brighton.
He gives his age as 30 in 1881, 38 in 1981 and 44 in 1901
When he left Honoria in 1923 he run off with her younger sister Ellen he had 3 children with her.(all born in and around Chelsea)
on his marrage cert also Chelsea, he says he is 70/ Widower /Valet / fathers name John Fuller decased Cab Proprietor.
John Ensor Fuller died in 1933 aged 78. also Chelsea.
After going over the diffrent ages I fIll his birth year is abt1855.
( note he had dropped the hope by this time)
also if he had been married to Honoria he would not have been a widow as Honoria was still alive when he married Ellen in 1927.
Honoria never died untill 1968.
The only birth I could find any where for a John Ensor was Brighton 1855 so this ties in nicely. This was John Ensor Hope.
SO I GOT TO THINKING WHERE DOSE THE FULLER COME IN TO THIS.
I orderd the above birth cirt the fathers name says John Hope Painter Journeyman mother Sarah Hope formley Baker.
The only Sarah Baker I could find was to a Henry Hope in 1821
(so not mine) they did have a son named John born 1831 and a daughter name Sarah born 1836
In 1861 sussex there is a Henry Fuller aged 27 Cab driver
Sarah 25 and John 6
It was the cab driver part that took my interest so Iooked to see if any Sarah hope's married a Henry Fuller and sure enough there was in 1858 so mybe this is my John. with a new Father called Fuller.
I can not find any John hopes with Father John and mother Sarah in Sussex with the right birth year in 1861
I am not sure how to confirm my John Ensor Hope Fuller with his past family.
Can you give me some ideas please,of what I should look for next.
Thanks you
Diane x
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