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maybe Ellen was a widow?

Marriages Dec 1844
TOUHY Ellen Exeter 10 126

Marriages Mar 1860
Touhy Ellen Bolton 8c 381

HENRY FULLER
Marriage: 04 JUN 1833 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England

Wife
MARGERY WILLSON
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Henry Fuller 4 May 1834 Brighton, Sussex, England
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James Fuller 8 Jan 1843 Brighton, Sussex, England
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Margery Ellen Fuller 21 Oct 1838 Brighton, Sussex, England
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Robert Fuller 21 Feb 1841 Brighton, Sussex, England
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Sarah Ann Fuller 18 May 1845 Brighton, Sussex, England

I have the death Certificate for Honora Fuller
It dose say Widow of the late John Ensor Hope Fuller
but this information is only as good as the person that gave it.
As it was both the son John and daughter Eileen, they would have thought he had been married to they mother.
I dont think he every was, as on his marriage cert to Ellen in 1827 it says widow and Honora was still alive, so he must have been refering to his fist wife Helen form 1880.

Diane

Mind you..strange he marries a Helen Hope also..!

born out of marriage?
Added mothers maiden name to his

Marriages Jun 1858
Hope John William Brown Hastings 2b 33
Fuller Phoebe Priscilla Hastings 2b 33

Oh..shoots down my answer..lol....poo!

Maybe Ensor should be Ernest..or short for something else?,..Edward?

He was born just John Ensor Fuller..added Hope in the christening!..to honour his furture new wife.!, Helen Hope. :)

GOT!..the christening is the key!

He was gonna married Helen hope, need to get chritened to get married where they wanted and so got christened and added his future partners surname to his in the christening!...YES!...

Jim,
I have been looking at this one over the last few days and it dose seem to match but why would John Ensor say his father was John Fuller on his 2 marriage cert in 1880 and 1927 if he had taken his step father name, he would or should have siad Henry Fuller not John.
Do you see what I mean.

I dont wont to start going down this line to find I am wrong.

What eles can I look at to be sure.

Diane

So..whos ?

Marriages Mar 1880
Fuller John Ensor H Salford 8d 82
Hope Helen Salford 8d 82

This him?....yes late christening..lol..maybe so as to get married where they wanted.

Boogie,
Thanks for your in put, but I can not find A john Ensor hope Fullers birth only John Ensor Hope
I have this birth cit and it say Father John Hope Sarah Hope formaly Baker.

This is why I am having difficulty finding the fuller part
I have looked for a marraige for a Sarah hope to a Fuller and found 1 only to a Henry so why dose John Ensor say his fathers name is John Fuller on 2 of his own marraige cits years later.

Diane

Nice find Jim :)

Marriage for John Ensor Hope Fuller 1880,
is the father of the FULLER John E H, Honoria Touhy &

Marriages Jun 1927
FULLER John E H Tuohy Chelsea 1a 968
Tuohy Ellen Fuller Chelsea 1a 968

marriages?...not likely to have had kids i his possible 60's + by the time he marries Ellen.

Though possible I guess....lol.

So im of the thinking that the marriage for John Ensor Hope Fuller 1880, is his fathers.

Could be wrong..but

Ericthered

I am so Sorry I was not being rude I never realised what the relevance was.

Eileen J Fuller born 1817 Mraylebone
Honoria H Fuller born 1818 " "
John P Fuller born 1819 Fulham

I do want as much help as poss

Thanks
Diane


Ps Thanks to all that are helping

Maybe a marriage of a sibling..or aunt, uncle?...so took the Fuller or Hope name from that and added it on.?

Maybe as a cover?

Ok..maybe link is between Hope & Fuller ?

Marriages Dec 1848
FULLER James Brighton 7 494
HOPE Mary Brighton 7 494
Marriages Jun 1852
Fuller Michael Hailsham 2b 91
Hope Frances Hailsham 2b 91
Marriages Jun 1854
Fuller James Steyning 2b 357
HOPE Hannah Steyning 2b 357
Marriages Jun 1858
Hope John William Brown Hastings 2b 33
Fuller Phoebe Priscilla Hastings 2b 33
Marriages Mar 1869
Hope Maria Droitwich 6c 430
FULLER Edward Droitwich 6c 430
Marriages Mar 1873
Hope Jessie Tenterden 2a 796
FULLER Frederick Tenterden 2a 796
Marriages Mar 1880
Hope Helen Salford 8d 82
Fuller John Ensor H Salford 8d 82
Marriages Jun 1904
Hope Elizabeth Sarah Islington 1b 642
Fuller Joseph Islington 1b 642
Marriages Dec 1908
HOPE Ernest Belton H Brighton 2b 406
FULLER Stephen Brighton 2b 406
Marriages Jun 1922
HOPE Elizabeth M Fuller Cranbrook 2a _070


A marriage between a Hope and a Fuller...thats where he took the Fuller from.?..er?..understand what I mean?

OK, Diane, I'll bow out..........

I asked about the older siblings to try to establish some sort of time scale.........