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LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 29 Aug 2008 08:58

You might as well have the whole list of results for that surname in theis church (NBI) in case they fit anywhere

1 May 1861 Phoebe CLEMENTS 32 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
19 May 1861 George CLEMENTS 13w Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
7 May 1863 Ada Maude CLEMENTS inf Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
2 Jun 1869 Samuel CLEMENTS 81 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
10 Jan 1881 Hannah CLEMENTS 82 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
7 Jul 1887 Priscilla CLEMENTS 66 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
2 Jun 1896 Rebecca CLEMENTS 47 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert
23 Aug 1900 Edward Charles CLEMENTS 14d Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 29 Aug 2008 08:57

burial date

1 May 1861 Phoebe CLEMENTS 32 Suffolk Stonham Aspal, St Mary & St Lambert

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 22:36

Emma on ealrier censuses

1871 Census

Name: Emma Clements
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Female
Where born: Mendlesham, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Mendlesham
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub registration district: Mendlesham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Clements 14 Housemaid
Elizabeth Palmer 10 months
Emily Palmer 21
Henry Palmer 27 Grocer & Draper

Address:- Front Street


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can't find her on the 1861 census



sylvia

James

James Report 28 Aug 2008 22:31

Very true thankyou Sylvia I've learned a whole lot more tonight. I may have some Clements relatives !

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 22:30

Here's the 1881 Census ofr Frederick and Emma


Name: Frederick Clements
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham A, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: East End
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Clements 2
Charles Clements 1
Emma Clements 24 b.ca 1857, Mendlesham, Suffolk
Frederick Clements 22


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 22:29

That's what it says!!


Seh could be a cousin, close or distant.


Small village and all that!!



sylvia

James

James Report 28 Aug 2008 22:27

I dont get it Sylvia , that Frederick clements could well be child of emma and george that would make him 18 i think but marry emma clements?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 22:09

so Emma harvey married George Clements in 1866


AND Emma Clements married George Clements in 1876????


Marriages Jun 1866 (>99%)

Clements George Bosmere 4a 841
Harvey Emma Bosmere 4a 841


and

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)

CLEMENTS Emma Hartismere 4a 1128
CLEMENTS Frederick Hartismere 4a 1128
CLEMENTS George Hartismere 4a 1128
Fellingham Anna Myriah Hartismere 4a 1128


OK so discount this last one

George married Anna M, and Frederick married Emma, and all were in their 20s!!






sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 22:01

1841 Census

Name: George Clements
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Redgrave
Hundred: Hartismere
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub registration district: Botesdale
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Clements 35
George Clements 7
John Clements 30




sylvia

Clou

Clou Report 28 Aug 2008 22:00

Had a look on freebmd and couldnt find Phoebe's death and i agree with syliva u would need to buy the birth cert to confirm information

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 21:59

well, I found a marriage for George and Phoebe ..... see above.


Here is frederick's birth registration ..... if you buy that, that will tell you who his parents were


Births Jun 1858 (>99%)

Clements Frederick Bosmere 4a 509


To me it is fairly obvious that George married Phoebe in 1846. They then had several children, and Phoebe must have then died.

George then married Emma, and started a second family after 1876.


To prove this, you will need to get at least one birth certificate from each of the "two" families.



sylvia

James

James Report 28 Aug 2008 21:55

Im confused im pretty sure marriage is bosmere (correct for stonham) 1866 emma harvey and george clements. but in 1871 census there is children age 18,13,12,4,2. Even more weird is that i believe the same emma harvey had 2 illegitimate children samuel harvey and sarah harvey in mickfield, suffolk 1848 and 1852. Incidentally Emma Harvey is my 3x gr8 grandmother !

Clou

Clou Report 28 Aug 2008 21:52

No problem glad to help.

If George married twice... there could be cos Phoebe died and he married to Emma after???

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 21:50

?????

Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)

Bailey William Newmarket 14 169
>>>>>Bell Phoebe Newmarket 14 169
BISHOP Hockley Newmarket 14 169
Claydon Eliza Newmarket 14 169
>>>>>Clements George Newmarket 14 169
Cross Ann Newmarket 14 169
Fuller Charles Newmarket 14 169
Palmby Susan Newmarket 14 169


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and


Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)

CLEMENTS Emma Hartismere 4a 1128
CLEMENTS Frederick Hartismere 4a 1128
CLEMENTS George Hartismere 4a 1128
Fellingham Anna Myriah Hartismere 4a 1128



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 21:46

???? 1851 Census

Name: George Clements
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham Aspal, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
George Clements 22
Phoebe Clements 21


sylvia

Clou

Clou Report 28 Aug 2008 21:45

1871

Name: George Clemence
[George Clements]
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
Ecclesiastical parish: Bosmere
Town: Stonham Aspall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Clemence 18
Emma Clemence 42
Emma Clemence 12
Fredric Clemence 13
George Clemence 42
John Clemence 4
Walter Clemence 2

James

James Report 28 Aug 2008 21:45

thank you all very very much it is a great help for me.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Aug 2008 21:45

1861 Poss

Name: George Clemence
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Clemence 8
Emma Clemence 1
Frederick Clemence 3
George Clemence 33
George Clemence 2 Mo
Jane E Clemence 6
Phoebe Clemence 32 Beddingham, Norfolk

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2008 21:44

1891 Census

Name: George Clements
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
Ecclesiastical parish: Stonham Aspall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Clements 64
George Clements 64
Harry Clements 18 Son
Walter Clements 24 Son


sylvia

Clou

Clou Report 28 Aug 2008 21:44

1891

Name: George Clements
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonham Aspall, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Stonham Aspall
Ecclesiastical parish: Stonham Aspall
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Clements 64
George Clements 64
Harry Clements 18
Walter Clements 24