Melanie, my mistake, just putting 2 and 2 together and not getting it right.
Jennifer
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Hi Jennifer
Thanks for the advice. I think I will order the marriage certificate as you advise for Richard and Margaret.
I have searched the Divorce's on NA but the Divorce was between Percy Burns and Olive Burns (my Nan) and it doesn't show up on there.
Thanks again
Melanie
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To go back any further you really need the Marriage cert of Margaret Richards and Richard Burns which will give you their father's name and occupations.
Jennifer
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If you search on the National Arcives site for a divorce you will see it took place in 1933:
Divorce Court File: 8741. Appellant: Percy William Burn. Respondent: Margaret Burn. Co-respondent: William Edwin Winnington Blair. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [HD]. Covering dates 1933 Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years Held by The National Archives, Kew If you wanted a copy you can ask for a price before buying either hard copy or by download.
Jennifer
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could this be mother
1891
Name: Margaret Richards Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Gender: Female Where born: Steynton Civil Parish: Camrose Ecclesiastical parish: Camrose Town: Haverfordwest County/Island: Pembrokeshire Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration district: Haverfordwest Sub registration district: Haverfordwest ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David George 42 David U George 7 Eliza George 33 Eliza J George 8 George C George 3 John P George 4 Josiah George 12 Lillibeth H George 1 Mary M George 9 William Hy George 10 Margaret Richards 21
Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burns Richard Haverfordwest 11a 1493 Richards Margaret Haverfordwest 11a 1493
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........................................................... Burials Fleetwood Cemetery ........................................................... Grave 1 * Percy O'Hara .. 1919 - 1919 (son of Elizabeth Burns) * Wilfred S Burns .. died 1924 .. (son of Margaret Burns?) .. states 44 at time of death? .. only one birth and death shown for Wilfred S Burns 1902 - 1924 * Margaret Burns .. d Jan 1928 .. aged 61 (doesn't tie with census age) .. died in Carmarthen.
Grave 2 Elizabeth O'Hara .. nee Burns Harold O'Hara .. (Elizabeth son)
Grave 3 - next to above * Patrick O'Hara .. (Elizabeths husband) * Margaret Johns .. (Elizabeth daughter) * Lillian Johns .. (Elizabeth grandaughter)
Grave 4 Percy Burns .. 1894 - 1959 Elsie White .. 1900 1978 Grave Owner .. Nora Swales b c1907. Contacted relative of above but not replying anymore.
Am I jumping to conclusions about the connections between the above people or is the co-incidence too much ?
I know I need to order more certificates but which ones would you go for:
A) to confirm the Percy buried is 'my' Percy. B) to trace the family back to the 1891 Census.
If you have not fallen asleep by now thanks for taking the time to read this.
Thanks
Melanie
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**DON'T NEED LOOK_UPS JUST ADVICE PLEASE**
Am trying to trace this family back .. also to confirm the burial I have is 'my' Percy Burns.
Will post all information .. long sorry
......................................................... 1901 Census - Fleetwood, Lancashire .........................................................
Richard Burns ....... b c1870 Margaret Burns ...... b c1870 .. nee Richards Elizabeth Burns ..... b c1891 .. born Richards Percy Burns .......... b c1894 Elsie Maud Burns .. b c1900
.......................................................... Richard Burns / Margaret Richards Marriage .......................................................... J-A-S 1893 (11a 1493)..Haverfordwest.
........................................................... 1891 Census ........................................................... Have some good possibles but can't quite tie in.
.......................................................... Percy Burns Birth Certificate .......................................................... 08.01.1894 Confirms mothers maiden name as Richards
.......................................................... Percy Burns Marriage Certificate to my Nan .......................................................... 22.12.1923 - Fleetwood Lancashire Confirms the above census with father Witnesses: Wilfred Burns .. Elsie Burns
**Percy Burns divorced between 1925 and 1939 .. stated on Nans subsequent marriage cert divorced from Percy Burns. Possibly in Swansea area at time of divorce.
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