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hi
whats the best way to trace my great great grandmothers birth [charlotte gowing ipswich 1823}
also her parents i know the name of her father {i have charlottes marr cert } his name is david gowing c 1797 poss suffolk a silversmith
i dont have a name for the mother as yet
ive contacted records office & was informed they would do a search fee £25 for 1 hour if no other avenues then will have to use their services

I am surprised that it is not on the IGI.
Have you checked via the Hugh Wallis batch numbers?
They say the following are covered in Ipswich

Ipswich
(Dairy Lane Baptist) C092811 ** 1810-1837
(Dairy Lane Independent) C078471 1794-1822
(Ebenezer Wesleyan) C078451 1809-1837
(Nicholas New Chapel
Independent) C078431 1828-1837
(Saint Mary At The Quay) P012961 1562-1737
(Saint Mary Elms
Primitive Methodist) C078461 -1837
(Saint Mary Stoke) C062991 1813-1876 E062992 -
C062992 1565-1812 M062991 1813-1876
M062992 1565-1640
1661-1812
(Saint Matthew) C012772 1775-1876 E012771
C012773 1703-1774 M012771 1559-1702
P012771 1559-1702 M012772 1775-1875
M012773 1703-1774
(Saint Nicholas) P012621 1539-1709
(Saint Peter) P012601 1662-1796
(St. Clement) M131291 -1813
(St. Helens) M131701 -1825
M131802 -1835
(St. Lawrence) M131642 -1819
(St. Mary Elms) M131682 -1823
(St. Mary Tower) M131692 -1824
(St. Nicholas) M131782 -1833
(St. Peter) M131672 -1822
(Stoke Green Baptist) C092801 ** 1785-1837
(Tackett Street
Independent) C078421 1708-1837
(The Old Meeting House
Saint Nicholas Street
Presbyterian) C078441 1738-1774

Hi David....

Birth/Christening, 1821 - 1825, England
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 5
International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. CHARLOTTE GOWING - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: 23 FEB 1823

2. CHARLOTTE GOWING - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 09 MAR 1823 Stoke Holy Cross, Norfolk, England

3. CHARLOTTE GOWING - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 28 SEP 1823 Ufford, Suffolk, England

4. CHARLOTTE MATILDA GOWING - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Birth: 14 FEB 1824

5. CHARLOTTE MATILDA GOWING - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAY 1824 St Clements, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 5

Hope this helps you.

linda
thank you for your info
i will check those batch nos
david

liamedos
thank you
david

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle

use this link and then choose the county, clicking on the relevant batch number opens a search page, put the surname in the box, or leave it blank to see all the events in that church

Linda

linda
thank you
i will do that now
david

IGI on Family Search gives Charlotte Matilda Gowing born 14 February 1824 and baptised 14 May 1824 at St Clements Church, Ipswich. However only a mother's name of Catherine is given.

jeanette
thank you for that
this sure is a mystery how i cannot find charlottes birth & correct parent tried for months now
as i say i have her marr cert on this cert it states father david gowing occupation silversmith
i found the one you found somewhile ago
but charlotte was not illegitimate to the best of my knowledge &accordind to her marr cert
will have a look at the batch nos if i can get the website for it
david

Have you found the family on any census, David? Just a thought in case it gave any clues.

jeanette
no i havent
i think i will let the records office search them
thank you
david

Hi David

What was the date of her marriage? If she married after the 1841 census you should be able to find her on the 1841 - possibly with parents ?

Jill

On the NBI discs there are only two david Gowings in Suffolk

burial dates
13 Jun 1838 David GOWING 61 Suffolk Winston, St Andrew
9 Aug 1869 David GOWING 78 Suffolk Mickfield, St Mary & St Lambert

the second chap is this one who appears on the censuses from 1841 to 1861 in Mickfiled, but he is a farmer, so presumably can be counted out

David Gowing
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Brockford, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Mickfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub registration district: Coddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Berry 17
David Gowing 70
Lucy Gowing 63
Hannah Rumsey 17
Maria Stannard 17


so I wonder if the other one could be the elusive father you need. annoyingly he died just before the census.

The Hugh Wallis batch numbers give the following as available on the IGI
Winston
C132191 ** 1865-1875 M131612 -1817

jill
she was married in1845
i cant find her with her parents
david

There doesn't seem to be any relevant baptisms or marriages in that batch, but a closer look at those parish records may be worth while

linda
no you are correct david gowing {occ farmer ] is not her father unless her father misled the regisrar saying he was silversmith
instead of fafmer
so no thats not him
and the second one has no charlotte with them
thanks anyway
david

reggie
possible i suppose
i hope i dont get many like this again on my tree
it does your head in
david

There are three Charlottes in Winston in 1841
Charlotte Garrod abt 1821 Suffolk, England Winston, Suffolk
View Record

Charlotte Pettit abt 1816 Suffolk, England Winston, Suffolk
View Record

Charlotte Plowman abt 1835 Suffolk, England Winston, Suffolk

just off to look at the first image

Eh?
No I was discounting the second one in Mickfield because he was a farmer, but suggesting that

13 Jun 1838 David GOWING 61 Suffolk Winston, St Andrew
could be him

Oh well another theory bites the dust, that 1841 image is clearly Garrod and her father was an ag lab called Henry