Genealogy Chat

Hi Margaret,

I still keep an eye out for your William.

What is the name that is crossed out on the other marriage cert you have from the local office?

Also I wonder, do you have the deaths of the parents or marriages of any of his siblings in case he turns up on one of these?

Kind regards
Amanda x

Margaret,

Can you list the details from the marriage cert?

What was his age when he married, father's occupation, witnesses, addresses, etc..

Rose

Hi Amanda Roseand Gwyn Thank you here is the details from William and Emma marriage certificate.


William Poole and Emma Ranson
married 27th OCT. 1871 Emma 21 WIilliam 24 and on the original cert. the Eliott Cracknell was put on then crossed out. Williams father was George Weaver and Emmas father was George............ Gas Man

this was th parish church Haverhill no address just of the parish witnesses were James Smith and Rebecca Lloyd


I have the certificate of the children Emma Kate George and Albert as I said the last one being born 1889 in Edmonton on that cert. it gives an occupation for William and that he is the father. ,......................After Emma remarried and on the 1901 census they were living in Walthamstow.

I have phoned all the cemteries around the Edmonton area but they can't find Williams burial. On all the marriage certificates for the children they all say father deceased. Only Albert left to find but I don't know if he married.
This is haunting me

Margaret x

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When I read the details you gave for the cert I thought somebody was having you on, re the brides father. It seemed a silly name, 'George Gas Man' then I realised gas man was his occupation!
Huia.

What was William's occupation on his children's birth certs? Would it have required him to work away from home?

Rose

Can you tell us the death certs you've ordered so far?

Rose

have so far
William Brooks Pool March 1888 tried without the E
William Poole Dec. 1889 age 69 B. Stortford
William Poole ST. Giles age 50 June1890
William Poole Staines age 56 1890.

I really do not understand how his death could of escaped being registered.

thank you Rose

Margaret

This may be a long shot but the date could be possible if he had just died when the census was taken on 31st March but not registered till beginning of April. Also not too sure about the area but thought I would mention it.

Deaths Jun 1891

Poole William 58 London C. 1c 9

Christine

Hi Christine I have thought about getting that one although not in the area but if he had been in HOSPITAL? it could be
the eldest daughter got married in April 1892 he had before then.
Margaret

Hi Margaret,

If you get that cert will you let us know if it is the right one?

Christine

The problem is that if the death occurred in a hospital the informant won't necessarily be his wife or a family member. My great grandad died in hospital and the informant is Alice Murphy. It was a hospital for french expats in London so I guess Alice was either a Nurse or a Nun.

It's a problem isn't it especially as his age seems to differ such a lot.

They will all be up there looking down on us and laghing trying to trace them no doubt.

Christine

Hi My grandad died in hospital,the informant was his son.
I think Im right in saying that bodies have to be Identified.I can remember going with my father when my brother died.
Kay

Hi CHristine Janet and Kay, I will order that cert.the only thing about it is if she was awidow on the census would not the death have been reistered before the June

Margaret

That qtr covers April/May/June so it could have been registered 1st April. Census was 31st March so it is possible he had died 30/31 Mar and not registered for a few days but it is a long shot.

Christine

Margaret,

Have you tried contacting Edmonton register office? It could be the death never made it to the GRO.

Rose

Rose the Edmonton Office did a search for me and they too could not find a death for him, I think it is very strange also I did go the family records before they closed looked through the books and I have ancestry but find nothing it is as though he died and no one knew about it
as I say 6 years down the line and I am no further finding out
Margaret

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