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Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 May 2011 21:34

There are births .




George Arthur Huggett 1903 -Hackney.

George Albert Huggett 1903-West Ham.

George Arthur Huggett 1906-Holborn.

one which is your George?

what is Georges fathers name on the marriage to Elizabeth Smith/the same as when he married your Grandmother?

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 24 May 2011 22:19

Porkiepie I have Pmd you with some details but yes 3 maiden names all on one of her 3 daughters birth certificates .......Last week we solved most of the problem of how and why,....

Last bit would involve finding a man called William williams between March 1911 and 1954 Thats all we know so if you fancy a challenge !!??

Also this first post is 2008!!!!

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 4 Jun 2011 19:33

BatMansDaughter Dee,

Thanks very much for your help. A second cousin (found on here) has corroborated the wife and George's death so I now know when he died. He got a copy of the will and there is also a handwritten note which was quite poignant!

Once again, many thanks.

Vanessa

pelo

pelo Report 5 Jun 2011 05:20

I found a bigamous situation in my family tree quite by chance.The man was a master mariner sailing regularly between UK & West Indies & New York. He had a wife & 6 children in northern England but for some reason the women in his away ports gladdened the eye more - also some were wealthy widows. He went AWOL from his ship, spent a couple of years around Cuba with a wealthy widow from New York, then returned with her to New York along with a male acquaintance (named) they met who vouchsafed for my forebear which resulted in him becoming a naturalised american. They lived happily in her 5th avenue apartment for a couple of years & then they both sailed back on a foreign vessel to London.They cleared entry requirements as a married couple using her name, lived on St Georges Sq I think ( if i've read it right) married using his surname & then seemed to disappear. His legal wife & children ended up on poor relief & living with a 76 yr old aunt (in the 1841 census.)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jun 2011 08:21

Going back to the 1968 death cert that you have

Huggett, mmn Fowle, is possibly the daughter for that one who married a Dunn.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Jun 2011 08:43

if the correct death certificate, then this son-in-law
Ronald C Dunn
Spouse Surname: Huggett
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1957
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1486
which traces back to a Mother with maiden name Fowle (not necessarily name she married with), spouse born in 1936.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 5 Jun 2011 16:30

My George is George Albert Huggett 1903-West Ham.

On both wedding certificates to my nan Ada and the other lady Elizabeth my great grandfather's name is shown Reuben James Huggett.
My nan Ada remarried in 1954 so she must have divorced him before then. It appears Elizabeth reverted back to Smith by 1952 so it looks like something happened between their marriage in 1950 and 1952. It looks like they stayed together until his death in 1957.
I will try the local papers .
Thanks everyone :-)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 5 Jun 2011 16:31

Lois,

There are a few St George's Square in London. Off the top of my head there is one in Pimlico SW1

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 5 Jun 2011 16:34

Thanks for all your efforts but it has resulted that DUNN was a red herring!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Jun 2011 02:40

Just a note about the original question. ;-)

If there was bigamy, and if there was a prosecution and so it came to the attention of the General Register Office, the record is notated. The GRO then *will not* issue a marriage certificate if you apply.

That's because a bigamous marriage is void "ab initio" -- from the beginning. It was never a marriage, even though it looked like one.

A marriage certificate is proof of a marriage. So a marriage certificate for a bigamous marriage would be proof of something that didn't happen!

So, if you find a marriage you suspect is bigamous, you can try applying for a certificate. If it is refused, your suspicion is confirmed. But if you get the certificate, all it means is that there was never official proof of bigamy, even if it happened.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 21 Jun 2011 16:34

Janey,

Thanks. I have marriage certificates for both weddings and I know that police did visit my nan regarding George and bigamy . My mum is elderly and cannot remember times and dates well but thinks it was in the late 40's which means there could be another marriage between my nan's in 1933 and the marrage in 1950! It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest!

Thanks again.

Vanessa

pelo

pelo Report 4 Jul 2011 06:38

Vanessa

Sorry this is rather delayed but blame the constant earthquakes & much reduced services.

Thanks for your St George's Square hint. I'll head to Pimlico because I have got the woman's previous surnames which have been of some help so far.

Cheers
Lois

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 4 Jul 2011 13:55

your nan Ada remarried in 1954 so she must have divorced him before then ........... does the marriage certificate say she was divorced ?


it would be good if patchem would remove that 1957 marriage since it is too recent and it turns out the person is not related if I am following



edit ......... the 1954 marriage record gives both her surnames which usually means the bride was divorced