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Brickwall Please help again please

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Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Apr 2008 21:39


Just found this on family search....


Rosey GOVIER Household
Female

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Other Information:
Birth Year
Birthplace Kensington, Middlesex, England
Age 2
Occupation
Marital Status
Head of Household Peter GOVIER
Relation Dau
Disability

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Source Information:
Dwelling 185 Lancaster Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341007
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0033 / 28
Page Number 11

Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Apr 2008 21:34

have you got the birth certs from any of her children

I foind out that one of mine had bee previously married and I was looking for her under the wrong name.

Another poss is that Peter is actually a stepfather and she has taken his name (or that she's living with a stepfather on teh census using his name and hence not showing as Govier)

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 21:31

Julie ....What made you do that ...look at the addresses ...

I,ve Google earthed them and her addy is still there his has gone but as we know its Notting Hill ...they must have been two mins apart and he would have been found by her coz he worked in the shop .......

Well done Julie I,ve been on this for about 6 months

Sending for Birth cert now will let you know
Biggest Thank You Ever

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 21:14

Julie ....thats just what I,ve been thinking ...so I,m sending for rose birth certificate as today I found out that Florance died at about 3 years old ....

do you know that IS my great Grandad ...perfect Julie .....and he ran the shop under the flat from the age of 15 when his parents died

Julie

Julie Report 20 Apr 2008 20:43

Im thinking that considering they married at the end of 1901 you'd think they would of known each other for a bit before hand, so im wondering if Emily is Rose

1901 for both

Rose Govier
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement and St Helen
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Eary 19
Ellen Govier 45
Rose Govier 22
Thomas Govier 25
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Joseph Hicks
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Notting Hill, London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hicks 24
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they can be to far from each other as they are both in the Sub registration district of Kensington Town



KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 19:37

Nudged up for evening lot to give ideas .....please I do follow EVERY avenue

Today I,ve followed the Elizabeth Emily to see she married a Hughes

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 14:01

I think the only option left is to find her sisters birth and send for that certificate ...........

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 13:56

Linda Thanks again I have that and traced the Elizabeth through her life so she isnt Emily !!

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 13:55

Her mother was Ellan but no maiden name ....but I looked at Gambles earlier and Ellan is never with them !

Marcelle

Marcelle Report 20 Apr 2008 13:44

Snap Alice that was what I was looking at! The image isnt very clear

Marcelle

Marcelle Report 20 Apr 2008 13:43

Do you know what Peter's wifes maiden name was to check if she is with grandparents?

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 20 Apr 2008 13:36

Is it possible that she lied about her age on her marriage certificate. It seems to have been a fairly common practice.
how about this birth

Elizabeth Emily Govier
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 150

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 20 Apr 2008 12:44

Which I,m hitting my head on !

it goes like this
Emily Govier married Joseph Hicks 16th Nov 1901 and had 4 children.
But I cant find anything on her before or after this
married at 20 ..giving me 1880
father Peter Govier ...born 1855 died 1888
Address 19 kensal Road London

I found Peter on the 1881 census BUT NO Emily only Rosey and Florance
I feel without a birth certificate I can be sure this Peter is her father therefore her family
ANY ideas of other places or ways of looking

Yes you have seen this before but gave me leads which later became NOT her family ??