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Thats it you made me cry .......

So many Thanks to you all I,ve been working on this family for a year and looked at most of the goviers,gowers ,grovers ....and you have found them

I really cant thank you all enough so I will be posting this on Sucess page

Thanks Ivy. Julie, Hilary and Nicola and all the others who have put up with me and this family for the year .........

Think I've found them in 1891 mistrancribed as GOWER. It looks like Gower on the page, but could also look like GOVIER.

Head Sarah E Gower 34 Widow Washer born Landerworth, London (also looks like Lauderworth)
Dua Florence Gower 10 born Kensington
DAU EMILY GOWER 8 born Kensington
Friend Eliza Taylor 31 Single Housemaid
Address:- 80 Bramley Rd, Kensington
Ref:- RG12/23 Page 7

On FreeBMD there isn't a corresponding birth for Emily, but you may want to look at the complete index. Your Auntie was right about her year of birth.

Also the above 1891 census entry fits with the birth of Sarah Ellen Eary in 1856 and Peter dying in 1888 and the occupation of Washer in 1891 and Laundress in 1901.

Hope this helps.
Best Wishes, Hilary

The only Sarah Eary marrying in Middlesex in the 1870s is this one:

Marriages Dec 1878
Eary Sarah Marylebone 1a 992
Jenkins John Marylebone 1a 992
Jenkins Maria Marylebone 1a 992
Killick George Marylebone 1a 992

Could she be Sarah Ellen, recorded as Ellen in 1881 with Peter Govier? I cannot find a Peter Gov* marriage in the 1870s.

It does seem unlikely, given Rose was born about 1878/1879.

[Ed: just seen Julie's post back on page 2:

"Sarah Ellen Eary
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Luke
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: [35]1[79] (click to see others on page)

Just looked at the image and the munbers are 1b 519"]

Ros* Gov* births in London between 1876 and 1886:
Lilian Rose Gover 1881 Jan-Feb-Mar Wandsworth London, Surrey
Rose Gover 1879 Jan-Feb-Mar Wandsworth London, Surrey
Rose Govier 1877 Apr-May-Jun Holborn London, Middlesex
Rosina Govier 1878 Oct-Nov-Dec Kensington London, Middlesex
Rosina Ellen Govier 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Kensington London, Middlesex

1861 possible Eary family in Islington; Henry aged 2, parents Samuel and Phoebe. Older sister Sarah E. Eary aged 4

Class: RG9; Piece: 134; Folio: 66; Page: 12

1881 Henry Eary doesn't solve the niece relationship with Emily Govier

Henry and Georgina Eary living with her parents George and Jane Grant
Class: RG11; Piece: 64; Folio: 17; Page: 32

- ahh

- and this looks like the same family in 1901 with niece Emily (Govier on the image) aged 18:

Name: Henry Eary
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban the Martyr
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20

Household schedule number: 378
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Eary 41
Frank Eary 15
Jane Eary 12
Emily Gover 18 (Govier on image; b London, Middlesex)
James Kelly 23 boarder, horsekeeper b Ireland

Just adding a possible connected Eary family in 1891.

Charles Eary, visitor with the Goviers in 1901, age 19, b London is an ostler (groom). This Charles aged 9 in 1891 has father Henry Eary also a groom. No Sarah Eary in this family though.

Name: Charles S Eary
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Georgena
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 54

Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Eary 1
Charles S Eary 9
Frank Eary 5
Georgena Eary 29
George W Eary 6
Henry Eary 32
Jane Eary 3

this is the 1881 to tie in with that Nicole put up

Ellen Govier
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Peter
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 185 Lancaster Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 32a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Govier 26
Florence Govier 3 months
Peter Govier 26
Rosey Govier 2

Kemp

Im putting this on here too....

Sarah Ellen Eary
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Luke
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: [35]1[79] (click to see others on page)


Just looked at the image and the munbers are 1b 519

Haven't found a marriage yet though lol

thanks Julie ...again ....I,ll send for Florances ...

Emily was emily as I,ve followed Elizabeths Emilys life ....Thanks anyway

Florence Govier
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 80 (click to see
______________________

Wonder if Emily might be Elizabeth

Elizabeth Emily Govier
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 150 (click to
____________________

Maybe this is Rose

Rosina Govier
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 142 (click

Name: Charles Eary
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1882
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement and St Helen
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Govier 45
Rose Govier 22
Thomas Govier 25
Charles Eary 19

Rosey or Rose born 1879-1886

Florance Born 1882-1883

Emily 1880-1884

The first number is what the census says the other is what Auntie says !

Having gone on ....with my hunt I,m still stuck ....


Right Emily Florence and Rosey are 3 people ....I have PHOTOS!!!!!! they look like us!!

But I cant find their Birth entrys

I need this coz some one ...a Great Auntie said their mum was
Sarah Eary married to ?? Govier

Now I found Rose and Florance with a Charles Eary on the 1901 census so now need anyones birth certificate to get dates and names

yes you can ban me after this ...lo9l

Yes I will do that now ...Thanks so much ..You both really dont know how excited I am about prehaps sorting this ...

Thanks for your time

The fact that you can find none of them on the 1891 suggests that there is a transcription error. I've had loads of those and they create havoc. GR is quite good at suggetsing alternative names if you look at your front page and type in rose's details it will give you somne clues and then its just a process of elinination!

Good luck

BUT ....her first child was born"wrong" nothing more was said ............!

And she had her last child in 1916 thats how we re-checked her maiden name ......

It fits really well

I've checked the image for you - usually nothing there but they recorded whether people were blind,deaf and dumb, lunatic or imbecile!

She wasn't listed as any of those!

Nicola .......sorry to be stupid ....but what does the "disability " mean at the bottom of the first part of the entry ?????
Under
relation ship dau

Yes Nicola Thats the family ...and its the only census they show up on till 1901 .....
Yes we did think about that ..she may be a step child but then in 1901 Thomas showed up ..hes 25! she says she is 20 on her marriage cert which I have
I then thought .."I must get her birth certificate and thats where it stopped