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Can anyone help
I am looking for my gg grandfathers Parents
gg grandfather is John Lewis born 1821 Llangathen Carmarthenshire Wales. married Mary Thomas
thank you

Difficult with common Welsh surnames, I know, but have you found their marriage reference?
That would at least give fathers' names.

Where are they in later census, as a married couple?
That will tell you Mary's birthplace, which is possibly the parish where they married.

Gwyn

Also on trying to find

Christine

Sorry new to this How do I find marriage reference
Gaylene

Is this them in 1881?

Household Record 1881 British Census

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John LEWIS Head M Male 62 Llangathen, Carmarthen, Wales Master Cooper
Mary LEWIS Wife M Female 56 Llanfynydd, Carmarthen, Wales Master Cooper Wife
Ann LEWIS Daur U Female 29 Cadoxton, Glamorgan, Wales Dressmaker
Jane (John) LEWIS Daur U Female 26 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Housemaid Out Of Employment
John LEWIS Son U Male 24 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Clerk In Lime Works Office

Source Information:
Dwelling Woodbine Cottage Carmarthen Rd
Census Place Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342298
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5390 / 127
Page Number 36

If you don't have the marriage ref how do you know who he married?

Christine

No that is not him
He is a butcher
and his son John 1861 is a Butcher also

The marriage should be on freebmd...........as you know both full names, it will make it easier to locate the correct one.

1881 census......

Name: John Lewis
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Llangathen
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Tynewydd

Occupation: Butcher

Registration district: Llandilofawr
Sub-registration district: Llangathen
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Lewis 60
John Lewis 20
Mary Lewis 52
Thomas Lewis 13

Reg'n dist for marriage is likely to be Llandilofawr

1861 census

Name: John Lewis
Age: 8 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Llangathen
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangathen
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Llandilofawr
Sub-registration district: Llangathen
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
David Lewis 6
Eliza Lewis 4
John Lewis 42
John Lewis 8 Mo
Lewis Lewis 2
Mary Lewis 32
Margaret Thomas 78 Lodger


Reg

Have you looked for a possible baptism on the IGI?

This could possibly be their marriage:

1854, Quarter 4, district of Llandilofawr

A John Lewis marriage and Mary Thomas is on the same page.
11a 923

Good Luck!

Helen x

Gaylene,
I thought it was John's (b1821) PARENTS you were trying to find.
The 1841 census shows one John Lewis b1821 LIVING in Llangathen. It may not be him of course. However, he is living with Lewis Lewis and Elizabeth Lewis, whose ages are both given as 85, which makes them more likely to be his grandparents, rather than his parents.
Hope this helps!

Ray

Ray

The marriage cert will tell the poster the name and occupation of his Father (if known)...............that's why she has been steered in that direction!

Reg