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Thanks for keep trying .It's sending me round the bend .

It will probably turn out to be the most stupid mistranscription ever.

thanks again

lizz

I agree, it is the best match to be found, isn't it? I've had a look for this family either side of 1891 and the Florence/Charles/Harold family appear again on the 1901 census here:

Class: RG13; Piece: 3458; Folio: 19; Page: 31

- so it is different to the family that Lizz is seeking.

Could this be them? It's not a mistranscription, the original reads Newman.
1891 census
24 Florida St., Bootle, Lancashire
William J. Newman, head, 43, railway goods clerk
Agnes, wife, 45
Florence, dau, 16
Harold, son, 7
Charles F., son, 5
All born Liverpool except Charles F. born Bootle.

Update, Sorry just realized this is the same one that Claire posted earlier.

HI Lizz

1891 has William and Emma Reynolds at 75 Dane Street, so they will have moved before 1891.

Ivy

That is them in 1881 census ,thank you for trying ,i am looking for them in 1891 as i have all other census's covered .

thank you again

lizz

1881 for ref (piece 3687):

Name: Wm. H. Norman
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Walton On Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 75 Dane St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Book Keeper

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Norman 39
Flora Ellen Norman 4
Wm. H. Norman 34

Claire

that is them in 1901, but can't seem to find them in 1891 . thanks for trying.

Christine

unfortunately that can't be them as William Henry Norman was father and the son was called William Hesketh Norman a name which has come down the generations and was his mother's maiden name.

thank you for trying though.

regards
lizz

Hi Lizz

Is this any good?

Name: Agnes Newman
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William J
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bootle Cum Linacre
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton on the Hill St Mary
Town: Bootle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Newman 45
Charles F Newman 5
Florence Newman 16
Harold Newman 7
William J Newman 43


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2970; Folio 20; Page 34; GSU roll: 6098080.

William H - the son would have been about 8 - maybe H stood for Harold?

Christine x

1901 any good?

1901 England Census
about William H Norman
Name: William H Norman
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 277
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Norman 61
William H Norman 54
William H Norman 18

I have the following information from certificates and census returns.

Agnes Southern (nee hesketh) (1842 Liverpool) married William Henry Norman (1847 liverpool) sept 1877 liverpool .

I have them in 1881 census as in 1881 census lived 75 dale street walton on the hill lancashire.pro RG11/2687 folio 22 page 38.

and 1901 census as living 4 Marsden Villa Birkenhead Cheshire.RG13; Piece: 3397; Folio: 28; Page: 47

what i am looking for is them in 1891 to see if there were anymore siblings.Can anybody spot them please.

regards

lizz