Genealogy Chat

where do i start , i am hoping someone will be able to help me with the following nightmare.

my great great grandfather was Robert Cox born 1849 to charlotte cox in 10 dean street workhouse westminster. When robert married he had his fathers name as Robert Sadler Cox quite straight forward at this point but then after searching for a marriage of charlotte and robert nothing appeared. i have a family in the

1851 census of robert sadler 1820 porter westminster
wife charlotte sadler 1821 gloucester
catherine sadler 1842 westminster
robert sadler 1849 westminster

which has to be my family. i then lose track of robert jnr until 1871 where he then appears with henry cox (maybe charlottes brother ) and sarah cox and a william cox ( robert jnr brother ?) they are living next door to the north family roberts future wife.

i have been to westminster archives and found baptism of robert cox and john cox both on the same day in 1852 with mother charlotte cox and father robert sadler in st mathews great peter street.

1861 is proving to be a crucial time that i can't find them as i believe robert sadler died in 1854 and maybe charlotte cox married a henry walker in 1857 ? but again i can't find them either .

i now think a bit of expert help is needed in tracking them down. so here is the family details

robert sadler 1820 westminster porter by trade on cert and census
charlotte cox 1821 gloucester
catherine cox/sadler 1842 westminster
robert cox 1849 westminster
john cox 1852

another possible from a genes member is
william cox 1856 born to a charlotte cox again in a workhouse.

any help gratefully recieved.

lizz

Many 'pieces' of 1861 are not available........it may be that your family is on one of them

Reg

Hi Reg

thanks for that .are they completely missing or would i find them at the local archives ?

lizz

Christine

from checking the census returns i know rebecca culter married john sling .I am unable to find henry and charlotte in 1861 census.

regards
lizz

i found this but could she have dumped 2 kids and got youger by 6 years.

Name: Charlotte Cox
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Westminster St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Margaret

Elizabeth this is from the 1861 Page on Ancestry:

Known problems with 1861 piece numbers:

Pieces from RG9 where all parishes are missing (we do not have ANY records for these pieces):

145 407 903 1234 4015 4131 4196 4344
219 601 1039 3388 4022 4137 4291 4389


Pieces from RG9 where one or more parishes are missing (we have SOME records for these pieces):

217 690 2211 3913 4027 4143 4173 4211 4265 4295 4330
220 758 2247 3984 4041 4146 4174 4225 4266 4298
229 837 2365 3991 4077 4149 4178 4228 4270 4299
473 863 2625 4010 4078 4154 4184 4231 4272 4301
485 952 3278 4013 4079 4161 4185 4256 4274 4304
499 1047 3652 4014 4132 4163 4187 4261 4276 4309
541 1194 3735 4024 4133 4164 4190 4262 4280 4314
565 1984 3855 4025 4138 4165 4202 4263 4290 4319


Piece number "98" was not used.

Connecting piece numbers and localities:

To identify which parishes or townships are included in a piece, please use The National Archives online catalogue. Search the catalogue by entering the series code and the piece number, e.g. RG 9/217, in the box in the upper left that says "Type reference here."

Alternatively, you can search the catalogue vice-versa (identify which piece number a particular parish or township is part of) by putting a place name in the "Word or phrase" field and "RG 9" in the "Department or Series code" field.

Rutland Belle

thank you very much .i will see what i can find out.

regards

lizz

still not having any luck ,i will have to send off for some certificates and try that way.