Genealogy Chat

Ivy

Had a look at Prescott St on goggle and at the map and the street that my gg grandfather lived in is right next door 86 Westminster Rd. Can't even begin to search on him Robert JONES !!!

Thx for that.

Hi Susie,

Logging off again shortly. I've located the occupants in 1901 - probably not connected:

Name: Eveline Reddish
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Henrietta
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Hoole
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoole All Saints
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Chester Cathedral
ED, institution, or vessel: 19

Household schedule number: 189
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice L Reddish 5
Arthur R Reddish 10
Edith M Reddish 17 b Chester
Eveline Reddish 11
Frederick C Reddish 19 b Nottingham
Henrietta Reddish 40 b Staffs
John Reddish 39 Railway engine driver b Nottingham

[Edit - put Prescott Street Hoole into Google, and the estate agent photos suggest that the buildings may be largely unchanged from 1901]

Ivy

Just got in from work, many thanks for your recent additions, maybe I'll try that root.

Chester central library may be more likely though to hold the details?

Opening Hours
Monday 9.30 - 7
Tuesday 9.30 - 5
Wednesday 9.30 - 5
Thursday 9.30 - 7
Friday 9.30 - 5
Saturday 9.30 - 4
Tel: 01244 312935
Fax: 01244 315534
Email: [email protected]

Chester Library, Northgate Street, Chester, Cheshire, CH1 2EF

Hoole contact details

Tel: 01244 347401
Fax: 01244 347401
Email: [email protected]

Hoole Library, 91Hoole Road, Hoole, Chester, Cheshire, CH2 3NG

Opening Hours
Monday 2 - 7
Tuesday 2 - 5
Wednesday closed -
Thursday 9.30 - 1, 2 - 7
Friday closed -
Saturday 9.30 - 1

Aha,

Good map here showing where the libraries are - there is one in Hoole.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Library/library_map.htm

HI Susie,

How about finding the electoral roll info for Prescott Street Hoole? I'll see if I can find a library tel no or email for Chester/Hoole.

Ivy

Thx for that I've been looking again myself tonight. No Hannah on the 1901 despite the fact she is only abt 15.

I have found the marriage record for David & Rebecca but still can not be certain they are the parents of my Hannah.

Been trying to look at births for Hannah Davies around 1885/6 but of course does not give mothers maiden name, again couldn't be certain unless I order a shed load of certs.

So frustrating !!

I'm not sure where to go now....

Hi Susie

Ref for the image is:

Class: RG12; Piece: 4610; Folio 155; Page 3

Sorry, no mention of any individual named Mather in piece 4610.

However, repeating the exercise for 1901 provides -

Name: William Mather
Age in 1901: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil Parish: Mold
Ecclesiastical parish: Gwernafield
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Mold
ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Household schedule number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Mather 69 wife b Runcorn
Annie E Mather 38 unm dau b Runcorn
Emily Mather 25 unm dau b St Budworth Cheshire
Walter Mather 8 g-son b Scarborough, York
William Mather 69 rtd builder

Class: RG13; Piece: 5213; Folio: 113; Page: 6

The Davies family are at:

Class: RG13; Piece: 5213; Folio: 156; Page: 12:

Name: Rebecca Davies
Age in 1901: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Nerquis, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Nerquis
Ecclesiastical parish: Nerquis
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Mold
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Household schedule number: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
David Davies 41
Margaret Davies 1
Mary Davies 2
Rebecca Davies 35
Robert S Davies 9
Ruth Davies 10

Not sure that this is helpful - and not sure what to suggest next....

Ivy

Any chance you could look at the last entry and see if any Mather's are neighbours ?

Sorry, saw it used the other day, and it has been rattling around in my head since then....

btw- by the way (as in, just one of those odd facts which are likely not to be connected, but might be worth keeping just in case for the future...)

Ivy

Thx that looks quite interesting, sorry what is Btw?

Btw, no Gladys or Katie, but this Hannah's father David living on the Welsh side of Chester is a joiner:

Name: Hannah Davies
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Rebeccah
Gender: Female
Where born: Nerquis, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Nerquis
Ecclesiastical parish: Nerquis
Town: Penypon
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Holywell
Sub-registration district: Mold
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Household Members:
Name Age
David Davies 31
Elizabeth Davies 7
Hannah Davies 5
Rebeccah Davies 24
Ruth Davies 0
Edward Jones 26

Hi Susie,

- a possible W J Mather in 1901? He is an apprentice carpenter (his father also a carpenter).

Name: William J Mather
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert J
Mother's Name: Amelia
Gender: Male
Where born: Runcorn, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Household schedule number: 182
Household Members:
Name Age
Amelia Mather 43
Florence A Mather 17
Mary E Mather 7
Robert J Mather 48
Robert J T Mather 14
William J Mather 12

I see that Hoole is now a suburb of Chester (north east side), so that does look like England, yes.

Thanks to you all for your look ups, dosn't look like I have a match does it.

Knew this was going to be difficult with a name like Davies.

The witnesses on the wedding cert were W J Mather and Elizabeth Mather.

The address for Hannah on her wedding cert is 28 Prescott Street Hoole.

Does mean I have to look up in the English census ?

It looks as if the 1911 census entry is going to be needed in this case!

If you have an exact address from the marriage certificate you can do a 1911 address look-up request - at a fee of around £45 or so - the census will be more generally available around 2009 ish (phased release, pricing details not yet available?).

and the fourth look-up requested:

Name: David Davies
Age in 1901: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Lampeter, Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Cilycwm
Ecclesiastical parish: Cilycwm St Michael
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Llandovery
Sub-registration district: Cilycwm
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Davies 50
David Davies 54
David Davies 24
David Davies 21
Maggie Davies 21

Name: David Davies
Age in 1901: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanbadarn, Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Vainor Upper
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanbadarn Vawr
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Aberystwth
Sub-registration district: Aberystwth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11

Household schedule number: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Davies 19
David Davies 51
Elizabeth M Davies 12
Mary Davies 49
Susanah M Davies 9

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

nudge for anyone still up