Genealogy Chat

So you have him as child of Elizabeth and therefore of Enoch.

I'm not sure what your problem is as you can then go back via Enoch.

It looks as if they didn't bother to register him. It wasn't compulsory then.

Have you found the marriage of Enoch and Elizabeth?

Sue
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Yes Sue that's them on 1881.
Sue, Shenton is like Smith in S-O-T.
Annoying or what!!!

Just to confuse things a bit there are two other John Shentons who are born within a couple of years in Hanley to different parents but that one is the only one with Thomas as a middle name. Looks as if they are all related.
I spotted several Enochs going back a few generations in the area.

Sue
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So just to double check.......this is him in 1881 with widowed mother Elizabeth.

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Elizabeth SHENTON Head W Female 47 Stafford, England Charwoman
John Thos. SHENTON Son U Male 16 Hanley, Stafford, England Potter Dipper


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Source Information:
Dwelling 9 Clough St
Census Place Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341653
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2726 / 9
Page Number 16

That gives us a birthplace of Hanley for John.

Sue
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Hi Lynne.
I have John Thomas Shenton on the 1871 census aged 6, living with parents Enock(h) & Elizabeth Shenton in Buchnall New RD, Hanley, Stoke on trent, Staffs. He married Sarah A Mobberley in Feb 1886 aged 21. over the years I have requested births from 1864 through 1867 from reg useing parents names as checking points but never the right ones. I made up my mind that they maybe wern't his parents so started looking at Enocks brother & sister William b 1844 & Hannah b 1832. Tracked William to a marriage with Eliza Bennett There son is Thomas but I can't find any trace of Hannah after 1861. The family at this time were living at Shelton Hanley.
Gill

Hi Lindsey.
Do you have a magic wond?

Hi T.O.R
I have my grandfather & brother births marriages and 1901 census.My grt grandfather marriage , death grt grandmother all records going back to 1700's No birth records for grt grandfather civil or Parish. first record 1871 census with parents, 2xgrt grandad marriage and census his brother's marriage and two census. his sister can't find after 1861 no death or marriage. 3xgrt grandad census but no marriage need I go on... lol.Gill

Nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. When its a quiet time why dont we all have a brainstorming session, things are always changing as records get improved.im sure things have changed since you started the hard way?

Gill

Apart from the obvious (i.e. no further forward) any specific problem ?

You stuck with one generation or just direct ancestor ?

T.O.R. ;o))

and Iam no further now with my Shenton Family than I was was then, is it time to give up and throw in the towel with them !!!!!???
Fed up & frustrated Gill