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Just an idea - have you thought Ellen's maiden name may be Neville and that John Smith was actually born John Neville?

BW

Jane

Thankyou all (bows graciously) youre wonderful. Linda, I always thought Ancestry had everything, makes you wonder just how much they're missing!

There's a John Smith in 1891 who was born 1873, Harbury. He's listed as a boarder in Newcastle on Tyne but it's actually an army barracks. He's a gunner, Royal Artillery.

Update, just saw Linda's response.

Hi Star,

I subscribe to Find My Past and find quite a lot on there that I can't find on Ancestry.....and vice versa.

Linda

OH MY LORD I think it is!! Youre a star! I know Binswood End, it was an area I'd expect them to be in. Thankyou!! :-))))))

1891




1891 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, John
Address: 16, Married Quarters, Barracks Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Newcastle On Tyne, Newcastle


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Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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CHATMAN, Mary Ellen Daughter F 8 Scholar
Shorncliffe
Kent VIEW
DALY, Jeremiah Single M 20 Gunner Royal Artillery
Ireland VIEW
SPREADBOROUGH, George Single M 21 Gunner Smith 56th Battery R A
South Warnborough
Hampshire VIEW
DUNKLEY, Hubert Thomas Single M 21 Gunner 56th Field Batt Royal Artillery
Brington
Northamptonshire VIEW
CROOK, Fred Son Single M 20 Gunner 56th Field Battery Royal Artillery
South Moreton
Devonshire VIEW
MESSENGER, William Hy Single M 22 Gunner 56th Field Batt Royal Artillery
Gloucester
England VIEW
SNELL, John Single M 26 Gunner 56th Field Battery Royal Artillery
Mortimer
Berkshire VIEW
WARD, Beatrice May Daughter F 1
Woolwich
Kent VIEW
MEWES, Gertrude Elizabeth Sutherland Daughter Single F 4 Scholar
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW
SMITH, John Boarder Single M 18 Gunner Royal Artillery
Harbury
Warwickshire VIEW
NEEDHAM, Margart M Daughter F 5 Scholar
Sheffield
England VIEW
GARDNER, Gladys Daughter Single F 5 Scholar
Sheffield
Yorkshire VIEW
GILL, Peter Boarder Married M 38 Collar Maker Royal Artillery
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4207 Folio:
92 Page:
1

Registration District:
Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub District:
St Andrew EnumerationDistrict:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Newcastle Upon Tyne Municipal Borough:
Newcastle Address:
16, Married Quarters, Barracks Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Newcastle On Tyne, Newcastle County:
Northumberland



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Linda

Is this him?
Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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SMITH, Henry Head Married M 36 Platelayer G W R
Harbury
Warwickshire
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married F 29
Bloxham
Oxfordshire
SMITH, John Son Single M 7 Scholar
Harbury
Warwickshire
SMITH, George H Son Single M 5 Scholar
Harbury
Warwickshire
SMITH, Florance H Daughter Single F 3
Harbury
Warwickshire
SMITH, Annie M Daughter Single F 1
Harbury
Warwickshire
FREEMAN, Annie M Sister Single F 19 House Maid
Newbold Pacey
Warwickshire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3114 Folio:
74 Page:
12

Registration District:
Southam Sub District:
Southam EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Harbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Binsworth End, Harbury County:
Warwickshire



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Linda

I had a look on the BVRI discs, nothing with the middle name.
Margaret

Lol, I was just on the phone...off to have a look!!!!

Linda

She's gone suspiciously quiet lol!

Linda, bet, if you'd known it was a John Smith, you wouldn't have offered!

Linda, youre not so bad yourself!
Getting very fed up with this family research. My husbands ancestor was John Neville Smith born 1873 in Harbury, Warks. (Yes a dreaded Smith lol, but an unusual middle name and he was baptised in a teensy village!) His parents were Henry and Ellen. (Ellens maiden name unknown). Ive had a mooch round Harbury cemetery but cant find anything. He married Elizabeth Morgan in 1896 and had 7 kids that we know of. On the 1901 census in Bishops Itchington, Warks.

Hi Star,

If you add the details I am sure someone will try and find them, including me, although others are so much better at it.

Linda

census or BMD. I know he existed because he's my husbands direct blood ancestor! I also have his marriage cert, and he'd with his wife and kids on the 1901 census. I'm ok at sorting out other peoples trees, but when its my own I have no ideas, am at a standstill.