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GEE, John William Head Married M 42 1869 Bricklayer Labourer Yorkshire Lund VIEW
GEE, Elize Anne Wife Married
12 years F 42 1869 Yorkshire Middleton on the Wold VIEW
DUNN, Vernon Son Single M 17 1894 Bricklayers Labourer Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
DUNN, Mabel Anne Daughter Single F 11 1900 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Harry Son M 12 1899 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Richard Son M 11 1900 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW
GEE, Percy Son M 7 1904 Yorkshire Middleton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28871 Reference:
RG14PN28871 RG78PN1660 RD525 SD3 ED2 SN64

Registration District:
Driffield Sub District:
Bainton Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Middleton on the Wolds

Address:
Middleton on the Wolds Driffield Yorkshire County:
Yorkshire (East riding)


says 7 children born, 5 still living - this has been crossed through and replaced with 3 children born and 3 still living

no I havent flip, she married william Gee in 1899 so she should be with him, and the other children she had, cant remember their years of birth, but they were Richard Gee, Harry Gee, and Percy Gee, I think.

william and eliza did stay together till the end.

didnt occur to me the scotlands one may have just been saving face.

Don't think they would have actually been married - just saving face!

Have you tried to find Eliza & family on 1911 census?

flip no its just on the 1891 census him saying he is married and living with this woman who says married.

theres no one else living there, maybe we should check

So you haven't actually found a marriage for them in Scotland?

sorry the scottish marriage is on the 1891 census the lady was from aberdeenshire think its on previous page.

good research and hard work everyone but much appreciated

the scotland one is the right name, the right age and even is profession which is not a common one.

I will buy mables birth cert, it should be interesting,

dont know whether to say poor John or poor Eliza at the moment, but will say thankyou everyone

what marriage in Scotland - have I missed something ?

He divorced her - siting adultery with William Gill (Gee), so it could be worth having a look at the records held by National Archives - could give dates and more details.

Not sure what to think of his 1891 marriage in Scotland though?

but John F Dunn married this annie in scotland in 1891

and John divorced eliza in 1893

so it looks like John Dunn went first then she divorced him or am I getting muddled?

oh no !

Well done Flip - persistence bears fruit ...

Birth certificates definitely needed !

I think it is more likely to be your grandad, looking at their births, Q2/1893 for Vernon and Q1/1895 for Mabel seems unlikely their father would have been John.

You can order details online from the national archives for the divorce if you want them. (It costs though)

oh my no!!! gill is gee, she had the affair with grandad!!

I must apologise to John Dunn I hope you can hear me...who is the father of mable and vernon then???

william gill (Gee)

Divorce Court File: 16030. Appellant: John Frederick Dunn. Respondent: Eliza Annie Dunn. Co-respondent: William Gill. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].
Covering dates 1893
Held by The National Archives, Kew

Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English



I'm gobsmacked! They did divorce

goodness me no, no one in the family could help me at all, I think they all thought I was crazy for suggesting she had been married before and there was another child. Infact one member of the family said gravestones cant lie, well they sure can!!

If you do get Eliza's marriage certificate to John William Gee, I'd be interested to know how she was described

It might also be worth getting one of the birth certificates, for either Vernon or Mabel, to see if their father was actually named as John Frederick Dunn

When you posted way back in 2008 I don't suppose you expected it to take this route!

eliza never mentioned John or her daughter. Its all very strange and sad,

his job allowed him to go around behaving like this and get away with it.

just incase everyone is interested mable and vernon dunn were buried with the name Gee on their headstones, I dont know if they were adopted or they just took his name, but they never mentioned their dad John Dunn or their sister ever.

once again many many thanks

well, poor eliza must have been broken hearted, I cant believe you found that choccy thank you so much.

my husbands family will be so pleased and relieved.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Name: John Frederick Dunn
Probate Date: 4 Mar 1941
Death Date: 11 Dec 1940
Death Place: Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
Registry: Llandudno


of Dunholme, 20 Church Avenue, Harrogate
died at The General Hospital, Harrogate

Probate to Elsie May Dunn spinster
Effects - £969 15s 0d

Looking at John's family, in 1861 his father was Robert Pickering Dunn, born Hull and it is Roseannah born Lincoln according to the census. There is also another child Emily (8) born Hull.

Looks like you've got a family scandal on your hands!!