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We're both going to end up in an asylum if we're not careful. No wonder Shelley's not answering. She's run for cover having been through this already.

ozi.

oh, that looks promising!


sylvia

I've started following your Joseph/Eliza Hockin with the Medlins.

1881:

Name: Joseph H. Hacking
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Crawshawbooth, Lancashire, England


Civil parish: Higher Booths
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Slydings

Occupation:

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Rossendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
...>>>Harriet Hacking 45 - Falmouth
Anna A. Hacking 22 - lab in cotton mill, Redruth
...>>>Eliza J. Hacking 17 - lab in cotton mill, Redruth
Harriet Hacking 12 - Redruth
Mary E. Hacking 10 - Redruth
...>>>Joseph H. Hacking -
Joseph H. Hacking 22 - nephew - Falmouth

I think I am about to run screaming into the night!!!


I was searching for Melinda/Malinda Harris.


Found one, and she is WIFE to Richard Harris in Norfolk, on the 1881 census (and the ONLY census in which she appears so far as I can make out).

Then I found a marriage registration for Richard Harris to Melinda Moll December 1873.


Tell me it aint so!


The other Malinda Harris I found was born ca 1856 in Somerset.


sylvia

I've just returned to it as well. It's really nagging at me!


But there is no doubt that Joseph Hocking is not living with Mary Alice Adlum and her family on any of the censuses, as Shelly's uncle implied.


sylvia

I can't leave it alone.

Here's the Adlums in 1881.

Name: Thos. Adlum
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Lower Booths
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 19 Oakenhead Terrace

Occupation: Cotton Weaver

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Rossendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thos. Adlum 21
Mary Jane Adlum 19
Mary Alice Adlum

I would love to hear from Shelly!


see you later, Ozi


sylvia

Yes, I might give it a break now & check back later.

Ozi.

I don't know that anything we've found can help .................... there's lots out there, but how to fit it in with the family stories?


sylvia

We need to find Melinda/Malinda in another census.

Well done with Harris/Hocking but I can't find her.

Ozi.

Recap of Shelly's information

Eva Hocking 1907-1980 bacup lancashire ggran ......... Birth registration found for 1909

Joseph Hocking 1880( there are 2 in the bacup area at the same age) ........ Birth registration not convincingly found

married Mary Alice Adlam 1885 in rawtenstall in 1905 .......... Marriage registration found, as AdlUm

Joseph parents are a mystery i thought she was called harriet but im not sure the story i was told off my uncle was that Joseph was born a twin the other a girl but she died as a a young girl possibly 2/3 dont know the age for sure.

........ No sign of Hocking twins being born in relevant time period


Josephs mother was called hocking and worked for a well to do family in redruth cornwall but one of the family whom she worked for got her in the family way and she was dismissed and she came to live in lancashire. i dont know if she is from cornwall or lancashire


........... Cannot find evidence of this


she went to live with josephs wife to be family ( when joe finally grew up)


........... Can't prove 'cos after 1901 so no census


when the twins was born as far as ive been told they grew up and joe married the daughter of the family they were living with.


......... Joseph not with the Adlum family in 1891 or 1901



sylvia


just edited (typos!!!)

I think Shelley's family stories have become muddled into one big heap.

Ozi

What do you think of this one???

I was hunting for Melinda/Malinda Hocking's birth. Nothing. Then I wondered if maybe she had married a Hocking


and found this one


Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)

Farrow Jane Haslingden 8e 200
>>>>Harris Malinda Haslingden 8e 200
>>>>HOCKING Joseph Haslingden 8e 200
Tattersall John Haslingden 8e 200



I'm getting very confused now!!


sylvia

I wonder if this is the family she came to be near? See where born & parish where they're living.



1901:
Name: Joseph Hocking
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Redruth, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Bacup Formerly Newchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Church
Town: Stacksteads
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 2 Honeyhole

Occupation: Stone Quarryman


Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Bacup
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 288
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hocking 47
Mary Hocking 44
Henry C Hocking 15 - cotton weaver
William Hocking 10
Mary Ann Berry 12 - niece, cotton weaver

All born Bolton or Burnley except Joseph.

ozi

I just saw those two, and that does seem to make sense of the two birth registrations which were so very close together!


I can find no sign of a Melinda/Malinda with children Joseph and Elizabeth before she is with Cowgill in 1891


sylvia

I'm stuck

nothing seems to make sense with the stories that Shelly has.


sylvia

Sylvia, I think this is the Joseph I found.

1881:
Name: Joseph Hocking
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's name: Richard H.
Mother's name: Amelia A.
Gender: Male
Where born: St Just, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Just in Penwith
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Bosavern Tenement
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Penzance
Sub-registration district: St Just In Penwith
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard H. Hocking 33
Amelia A. Hocking 31
Eliza J. Hocking 10
Mary E. Hocking 8
Joseph Hocking 1


& perhaps Elizabeth A.

Name: Eliz. Ann Hocking
Age: Younger Than 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary J.
Gender: Female
Where born: Highway Gwennap, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Gwennap
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Highway
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Gwennap
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary J. Hocking 31
Janie Hocking 8
Freddy Hocking 5
John Hocking 4
Eliz. Ann Hocking Younger Than 2

well, here's Melinda Wilkinson in 1901, still with Joseph and Elizabeth Hocking


Name: Melinda Ann Wilkinson
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Bacup
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Church
Town: Bacup
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Bacup
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Elizath Ann Hocking 18
Joseph Hocking 21
Bertha Wilkinson 3
Clara Wilkinson 17
Cowgill Wilkinson 14
Julia Wilkinson 6
Maud Annie Wilkinson 10
Melinda Ann Wilkinson 44




are we off on a real wild goose chase here???


sylvia

I just found that one

I'd been trying to find Melinda Hocking on the censuses without success!

Now I'll go and look for MAlinda!


sylvia

Goodness, it gets worse!!

Marriages Mar 1886
HOCKING Malinda Rochdale 8e 1
TWYFORD Joseph Rochdale 8e 1
Wilkinson Cowgill Rochdale 8e 1