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thanks tina I found james george and family on the 1881 . jenny x

Hi Jenny, Yes, I think Kate Elizabeth Grover was born 1853 but christened the same time as her sister. Don't think they were twins. Tina

Hi Tina Would you be kind enough this is a shot in the dark birth death or marriage if possible Walter Webb 1845 Sarah Webb born 1847 Ada Webb born 1869 Fred Webb born 1872 Lizzie Webb born 1876 Hope you can help me out all these were born in Rotherhithe Thank you Margaret

have loads LOL but can you look for any COULBYS the only date i have is 24 June 1860 Birth of Thomas William COULBY Parents John Coulby and Sarah Ann. I can't read Sarah Ann's maiden name on Thomas's birth cert so if you can find a marriage for me between John and Sarah I will love you forever and a day LOL Shelli

hi tina can I just ask you about kate elizabeth grover, you have 29th april 1855 then you have in brackets born 1853, I have sarah frances date of birth as 6/4/1855 so maybe they were both baptised together and not twins at all, what do you think?. jenny x

Hi Tina, I am particularly looking for the Baptisms of WILLIAM VENTHAM born c1863, ADA VENTHAM born c1867 WALTER VENTHAM born c1871 JOHN VENTHAM born c1873 possibly in St Marys Parish Church Rotherhithe. Any help or assistance you can give will be most appreciated. Regards Rita Barfield Thank you for the offer. My gt gt grandparents WILLIAM JOHN VENTHAM AND ELIZABETH SMEATH SEYMOUR, married at St. Mary's Rotherhithe on 26/12/1863 they had 9 children, I wonder if you can check to see if any VENTHAMS were baptised at St Marys or All Saints. Thank you for any help you can give, Rita

Glad to have been of help Jenny. I've just checked All Saints Rotherhithe for any Grovers. There are no baptisms or burials but there are 2 marriages. They are: Harriett Ougham Grover married Joseph James Whitney - 15 August 1871 Henry Thomas Grover married Louisa Hill Barrett - 16 August 1865 Best wishes Tina

tina thank you very much for all that information, looks like my great grandmother was a twin then, I have the marriage certificate for sarah frances to charles dance born peckham, I can look up those names on the 1881 census now. best wishes , jenny x

Hi Selina, I've checked both St Mary and All Saints for possible baptisms and a marriage for John Charles Poole and Sarah Ann Moore but found nothing I'm afraid. If you'd like me to check anything else please feel free to ask. Tina

Hi Jenny, There wasn't a baptism form James Grover b. 1832 Rotherhithe at St Mary but I found the following that I think belong to you: Baptisms: James George Grover 21 Feb 1847 son of James & Elizabeth Jane (Ref: 4085) Kate Elizabeth Grover 29 Apr 1855 dau of James & Elizabeth Jane (Ref: 4086) (born 1853) Sarah Frances Grover 29 Apr 1855 dau of James & Elizabeth Jane (Ref: 4087) Marriages: James Grover to Elizabeth Jane Lloyd 22 Jan 1846 (Ref: 631) James George Grover to Elizabeth Howard 10 Nov 1868 (Ref: 632) There were no female marriages for Grover & no Grover burials for St Mary. I haven't had time to check out All Saints tonight. I'll do that tomorrow. Hope this helps. Tina

Tina - I think you are my new best friend! I am looking for the marriage of John C Poole to Sarah Moore? year unknown. John was born 1831 and christened at St Mary on 1 Jan 32, Sarah born ? 1833. I am hoping you can tell me if John's parents were Charles and Charlotte Poole. Family lived in Rotherhithe area for years (my mum was born there). Please let me know if you need more info. Many thanks for your time Selena

hi tina could you look for james grover born around 1832 in rotherhithe please. his daughter sarah frances who was my great grandmother was born in rotherhithe and married in drummond road baptist chappel if thats any help. thanks very much. jenny x

Thats OK Tracey. Tina

Thank you very much tina, it confirms their births and parents for me. I have the other 2 children from the 1881 census but have been unable to find their births or christenings. Their parents marriage was in 1852 in stephney so i didnt expect that to be found. And all the above children married outside of rotherhithe. But thank you very much for taking the time to look for me Regards Tracey

Hi Tracey, Yes, I have found some of them in the St Mary registers. Baptisms as follows: Albert Shaw - 3 Oct 1858 son of George Robert & Annie Eliza (Ref: 8520) Mary Ann Shaw - 1 July 1860 dau of George Robert & Annie Eliza (Ref: 8530) Annie Eliza Shaw - 31 Mar 1862 dau of George Robert & Annie Eliza (Ref: 8521) Ada Jane Shaw - 4 Oct 1863 dau of George Robert & Ann Eliza (Ref: 8519) Note it says Ann Eliza and not Annie Eliza for Ada's baptism. I could find no marriage for George & Annie in either St Mary or All Saints. There is a burial for an Elizabeth Shaw at St Marys. 29 April 1840 from Russell St - 85 yrs (Ref: 5886). Any good to you? There are no Shaw baptisms/marriages or burials that match for All Saints. Tina

Hi Tina Can you please look for the following births/christenings: Children of george robert & annie eliza shaw: albert shaw sept/oct 1858 mary ann shaw jun/jul 1860 annie eliza shaw mar 1862 ada jane shaw sept/oct 1863 george s shaw 1866 emily s shaw 1867 igi shows some of them christened st mary's rotherhithe so fingers crossed. Many thanks Tracey

Glad to have been able to help Keren. Tina

Thanks fo that Tina, Isn't it pain when they change their names!. I have him married to an Eliza, So it could be either! Thanks again Keren

That's OK Keren. Did you know there's a marriage on Free BMD for Thomas Alfred Hoadley? Thomas Alfred Hoadley - Dec 1886 - Shoreditch - 1c 179, married either Ann Martha Jolly or Ruth Emily Sheppard. Tina

Many thanks for having a look. I've often wondered if he remarried because on some census info it gives her birth as 1857, which would make her only 10 when the first child was born. Thanks for the one you found though. Keren