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Mhairi Norvals - no Margaret and ARchibald, dad living together. A couple of possibles for each here: (there are a couple of Margarets inthe Edinburgh area, but wrong fathers name) Dwelling: 180 Pollockshaws Rd Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203675 GRO Ref Volume 644-12 EnumDist 36 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wm. NORVAL M 27 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Cashier & Bookkeeper & Billiard Table Maker Mgt. NORVAL M 23 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Dwelling: 364 South Wellington St Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203670 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 30 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Elizabeth NORVAL W 53 F Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Shirt Finisher Margaret NORVAL U 22 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Cotton Spinner Janet NORVAL U 16 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Dwelling: Clydesdale Place Census Place: Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203703 GRO Ref Volume 654 EnumDist 24 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Archibald NORVAL M 42 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Labourer At Iron Works (Unemp) Alice NORVAL M 35 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Alice NORVAL 2 F Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Jean W. NORVAL 4 m F Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur James L. NORVAL 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Dwelling: 4 Cromwell St Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203663 GRO Ref Volume 644-9 EnumDist 63 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Archibald NORVAL M 56 M Kilmarnock, Dunbarton, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Joiner Ellen NORVAL M 54 F Kippen, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Wife William NORVAL U 26 M Strathblane, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Grocer David R. NORVAL U 14 M Strathblane, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Jane G. NORVAL U 22 F Strathblane, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Elizabeth NORVAL U 18 F Strathblane, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Draper Saleswoman Bethia LYLE U 14 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Gen Ser (Dom) Andrew S. MC QUEEN U 20 M Strathaven, Lanark, Scotland Off for the next one. Ellen.

Mhairi Your starter for ten - 2 possibles for James & Margaret Cunningham: Dwelling: 5 Gibson Ter Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223990 GRO Ref Volume 685-1 EnumDist 29 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James CUNNINGHAM M 30 M Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Warehouseman Margaret CUNNINGHAM M 26 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Jane CUNNINGHAM 5 F Newcastle, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur James CUNNINGHAM 3 M Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Janet CUNNINGHAM 1 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Dwelling: 97 Pleasance Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224008 GRO Ref Volume 685-5 EnumDist 6 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James CUNNINGAM M 32 M Leitrim Annaden, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Vanman Margaret CUNNINGAM M 23 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife John CUNNINGAM 4 M Athelstaneford, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Son Thomas AIRLEY W 70 M Leitrim Mewhill County, Ireland Rel: Boarder Occ: Labourer Thomas AIRLEY U 17 M Edinburgh, Scotland Back with the rest. Ellen.

Hey Ellen, Thanks for the offer Could you please do a search for Margaret Hutton b 1855 possibly known as Margaret Cunningham living with James Cunningham b 1850 maybe living at 5 thistle street Edinburgh. Margaret Noval b 1864 maybe living in the Glasgow area with her father Archibald Norval. Margaret Paxton b 1866 maybe living with her family in the Haddington area (i think). Parents William Paxton and Margaret (Huntly). John Hamiton b 1860, living with parents Alexander Hamiton and Jane (Jeffery). Not sure which area. John Crawford b 1854 Peebles area. Parents Thomas Crawford and Janet (Proudfoot). Sorry its alot, only do it if you can. If you need to know any more information i'll do my best to help. Thanks again Mhairi

Hi susan Do you mean SKares?? to the east of Drongan? Stair is about the same distance away but to the north. Both of course are very close to Mauchline where one of the Sophia Ramages above is living in 1881. Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that these are all of the births, and none are as far south in Ayrshire as either Stair or Skares. Any other info to tie Margaret or any of the family into any of these parts of Ayrshire? Cheers Ellen.

Hi susan Here are a couple of possibles for your Henry Fulton and Sophia Ramage in 1881. (No Sophia Ramon) Dwelling: 280 Baltic Street Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203629 GRO Ref Volume 644-1 EnumDist 24 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John FULTON M 34 M Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Edge Tool Finisher Margaret FULTON M 36 F Ireland Rel: Wife James FULTON 13 M Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Grocers Message Boy Elizabeth FULTON 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar John FULTON 8 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Hugh FULTON 7 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Margaret FULTON 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Dau Henry FULTON 2 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Robert FULTON 11 m M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Dwelling: Westruther Census Place: Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224032 GRO Ref Volume 756 EnumDist 1 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert RAMAGE M 35 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Master Joiner Margaret RAMAGE M 37 F Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Joiners Wife Margaret RAMAGE U 10 F Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar George RAMAGE U 8 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Henry RAMAGE U 7 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Robert RAMAGE U 3 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Son Sophia RAMAGE U 1 F Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Dau James ANDERSON U 18 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Apprentice Joiner Robert WRIGHT U 14 M Westruther, Berwick, Scotland Dwelling: Bilbow Census Place: Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203605 GRO Ref Volume 604 EnumDist 2 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas RAMAGE M 43 M Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Quarryman Maggie M. RAMAGE M 47 F Sorn, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Wife Agnes RAMAGE 12 F Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Sophia C. RAMAGE 9 F Catrine, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas RAMAGE 7 M Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland Hope these help. Regards Ellen.

Susan None b. Stair. These are all ayrshire 1901 to 1903. Which one do you think so I don't waste too many credits? 1 1901 FULTON MARGARET F KILMAURS AYR 598/00 0102 2 1903 FULTON MARGARET F IRVINE AYR 595/00 0207 3 1901 FULTON MARGARET GOLDIE F GALSTON AYR 593/00 0206 4 1902 FULTON MARGARET GOUDIE F GALSTON AYR 593/00 0188 5 1902 FULTON MARGARET IRENE F KILMAURS AYR 598/00 0073 Cheers Ellen.

Lorna Sorry, its the 1881 Scottish census I have. I would have had a quick look on Scotlandspoeple for you, but we can only get Scottish births up to 1904. Sorry can't help. If you get any info a generation back I might be able to help then. Regards Ellen.

Hi Ellen Any chance of you looking for Patrick J J Whelan born in Bathgate about 1909. Regards Lorna Best (nee Whelan)

Ellen Thanks for details on a possible Ann Williamson for me, the area is most definatly making it a 90% hit for me, the family are all still in the Linlithgow area but aren't interested in giving any info unfortunatly. Ann Married William Braes b 1873 they had William 1899, Marion 1903 Stephen 1905 Andrew 1909 and Margeret 1911 (at least) My 2 children are Braes descendants and I'm researching for them, I got married in Stirling 15 years ago but live in Kent. Thanks for your curiosity. I'm off to Ireland tomorrow to try and trace my family, my father was born in cork so lots of graveyards!!! Regards Louise

Hi Gordon Sorry - pc crashed! Quick panic - but I've rebooted and its OK. Here's Robert and Margaret: Dwelling: High St Census Place: Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224034 GRO Ref Volume 762 EnumDist 2 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert TURNER M 27 M Newlands, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Masons Lab Margaret TURNER M 27 F Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Darner (Woollen) Thomas TURNER 4 M Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John TURNER 1 M Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Hubby says it crashed because its been on too long! Better take the hint and get off to bed. Good luck with your research. Ellen.

Gordon Only Walter Davidson in Peebles-shire Dwelling: Tweedside Cottages Census Place: Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224034 GRO Ref Volume 762 EnumDist 4 Page 17 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James DAVIDSON M 52 M Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Condenser ... (Woollen) Jean DAVIDSON M 50 F Gordon, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Wife Edgar DAVIDSON U 30 F Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Winder Walter DAVIDSON U 25 M Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Joiner Andrew DAVIDSON U 19 M Walkerburn, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Pattern Weaver Ellen.

Hi Gordon Just caught me as I was off to bed! first lot: Dwelling: Census Place: Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224034 GRO Ref Volume 762 EnumDist 4 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas FINLAYSON M 53 M Peebles, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Foreman Darner Jane FINLAYSON M 54 F Edrom, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Wife Mary DAVIDSON M 25 F Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Weaver James DAVIDSON M 23 M Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Son In Law Occ: Power Loom Tuner Robert TURNER 6 M Walkerburn, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Grandson Occ: Scholar Jane DAVIDSON 3 F Walkerburn, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Grand Daur Will go look for Walter etc now. cheers Ellen.

Hello Ellen, I've probably missed you tonight, but there's no panic anyway for these. Just three rellies I'd like to find in the Scottish 1881 - all from the same village of Walkerburn in Peeblesshire. Newly married James Davidson 22 and wife Mary 26; James's brother Walter Davidson 26; and their cousin Robert Turner and wife Margaret 29. Thanks so much, Gordon.

Vanessa These two families are a bit bonkers in terms of ages for the Edwin & Marion to be married, but it seems too much of a coincidence when both names are pretty unusual in Scotland. They are just along the road from each other. Maybe the other names/ages make sense to you! Dwelling: 208 Main Street Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203621 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 17 Page 28 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edwin RICH M 52 M England Rel: Head Occ: Billposter Anne RICH M 56 F England Rel: Wife Ferdinand RICH U 25 M England Dwelling: 49 Main Street Census Place: Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203620 GRO Ref Volume 628 EnumDist 5 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James TERVIT M 36 M Lanark, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Hammerman (At Smithy) Agnes TERVIT M 30 F Lanark, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Marion TERVIT 2 F Lanark, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Alexander TERVIT 10 m M Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland Regards Ellen.

Thank you very much You have solved a family problem that has been there for 3 years. Yours miriam abbott

Hi Marion Two possibles for Margaret: Either John was not at home - or was he deceased by then? Dwelling: Red Row Census Place: Dalserf, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203625 GRO Ref Volume 638-2 EnumDist 2 Page 51 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret KIRKWOOD M 58 F Maybole, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Andrew KIRKWOOD U 20 M Bailiston, Lanark, Scotland Dwelling: 362 St Vincent St Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203662 GRO Ref Volume 644-9 EnumDist 40 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret KIRKWOOD W 58 F Inchinnan, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head John KIRKWOOD U 34 M Houston, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Student & Apprentice At Law Mary NAISMITH U 17 F Cambusnathan, Lanark, Scotland There is a possible for Elizabeth working away from home in service, but gives birthplace as Parkhead. Close enough to Bridgeton to be her? Dwelling: 15 Preston St Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203631 GRO Ref Volume 644-1 EnumDist 75 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert DAVIDSON M 56 M East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Wright Janet DAVIDSON M 49 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Andrew DAVIDSON U 22 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Wright Martha DAVIDSON U 16 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Attends To House Agnes DAVIDSON 10 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Alexander DAVIDSON 5 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Elizabeth KIRKWOOD U 19 F Parkhead, Lanark, Scotland Struggling with John. Will look again. Regards Ellen.

Hi Miriam Got him mistranscribed as Gouch: Dwelling: 38 Main St Census Place: Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203706 GRO Ref Volume 662-2 EnumDist 1 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Isaac GOUCH M 30 M England Rel: Head Occ: Coke Burner Emma GOUCH M 30 F England Rel: Wife Mary GOUCH 8 F Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Elizabeth GOUCH 4 F Armadale, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Emma GOUCH 1 F Armadale, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur Worthy FRY U 21 M England And Emily as Emma! Cheers Ellen.

Hello there Ellan, when you get the chance and if it's not too much bother, will you please look for John kirkwood 54 born Borony, wife Margaret 58,Elizabeth 18. Elizabeth was born Bridgeton, They may have been in Dalserf area in 1881. Dont spend too much time on it, as I know it's not a lot to go on. Thank's again Marion

Vaness/Cherryl No trace of yours I'm afraid. It would really help if I had some idea of ages, even just a ballpark figure. Also if you know general birth area. Regards Ellen. Vanessa - Look further down - I have some info for you.

Hello Ellen. Is it possable to find Edwin Logan Rich And Marion Tervit when they gor married they lived I believed in Carrenshore Falkirk or any information. Vanessa