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Was your relative a Metropolitan Policeman?THIS TH

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Devon Dweller

Devon Dweller Report 6 Mar 2005 18:52

Thanks for looking Nell. I will make it up to Kew again one day. Sheila

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 18:41

Sheila He's not listed, I'm afraid. I tried his surname and his warrant number. But I doubt you'd get more info than you already have other than by going to Kew. nell

Devon Dweller

Devon Dweller Report 6 Mar 2005 18:33

Hello Nell My GGG Grandfather Joseph William Clark joined 28/12/1835 Warrant No 11258 and was dismissed (???) 18/5/1839 He lived in Greenwich at the time. Any help would be great Sheila

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 17:21

Andrew Sorry, no Denis or Dennis Regan :-( nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 17:20

Lynda Sorry Lynda, the only John Barnards listed joined the force in the late 1880s. nell

Lynda ~

Lynda ~ Report 6 Mar 2005 14:55

Hi Nell Wonder if you could find my GGG Grandad for me? John William Barnard I know he was a Policeman in c 1870 probably in the North or maybe East End of London, sorry to be vague, but I cannot find him in any census, and only know of him through his sons wedding certifiicate. Thanks so Much Lynda x x x

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 14:53

Sorry Geoff Nothing early enough for your two! nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 14:27

Brian This could be him: Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 01/10/1884 63795 EDWARD ROWE PC Y To K 03/10/1884 04/02/1890 63795 ROWE PC 396 K GRATUITY 29/01/1890 Y was Kentish Town and K was Limehouse. Gratuity means he resigned without a pension. nell

BrianW

BrianW Report 6 Mar 2005 14:05

I would be interested in anything on Edward Rowe born Cornwall about 1849, a Met policeman in 1881.

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 13:34

Cheers Nell - point taken about possibles ... I'm putting this into FTM as notes only ... with that qualification. This one's interesting isnt it. I think it is #1 as he was 'plod' on the 1891 census - #2 joined later. Disciplined eh ! Family trait then ! btw - he and Fred were 2nd cousins from the Lilley clan of Ickleton/Gt Chesterford. I've only got about 150 of em to date, no doubt the streets of Brixton and Lambeth will yield a few more ... many thanks again for your time and trouble. Laird

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 13:28

Sarah Sorry, this is all there is for Fitzgibbon. Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 48965 FITZGIBBON [no date supplied] 49771 FITZGIBBON JOINED [no date supplied] 12/02/1894 48965 FITZGIBBON PC 274 H PENSIONED 11/02/1894 18/09/1834 9749 GERALD FITZGIBBON PC L DIED

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 13:24

Laird I only said that Fred Lilley MIGHT be yours - I found at Kew yesterday that the Harry Gray I found on police-orders wasn't MY Harry Gray! Similarly, you have a choice of Roberts: No. One: Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 16/10/1882 67218 ROBERT LILLEY PC JOINED 30/01/1886 67218 ROBERT LILLEY PC B To M 01/02/1886 07/02/1888 67218 ROBERT LILLEY PC 407 M To 836 A 08/02/1888 13/09/1889 67218 ROBERT LILLEY PC 199 A To 587 W (DISCIPLINARY) 14/09/1889 22/10/1896 67218 LILLEY PC 241 W DISCIPLINARY 31/10/1903 67218 LILLEY PC 241 W DISCIPLINARY 18/11/1907 67218 LILLEY PC 241 W PENSIONED 17/11/1907 3 disciplinaries! Who's a naughty boy then? I read somewhere that conditions were strict and the most common reason for disciplinaries was drunkenness. Possible no. 2 Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 17/08/1896 81523 ROBERT G LILLEY PC 253 K JOINED 25/02/1899 81523 ROBERT LILLEY PC 253 K To 265 R 27/02/1899 07/09/1903 81523 ROBERT LILLEY PC 326 R RESIGNED 06/09/1903 Maybe No. 1, 2 or 3 Not sure whether this is one of the above - if you got a different warrant number if you rejoined, or not. Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 05/08/1914 O4877 ROBERT LILLEY PC W REJOINED Reminder about divisions: A Westminster B Chelsea C Soho Area D Marylebone E Bow Street F Kensington (From 1886) G Kings Cross H Whitechapel J Bethnal Green (From 1886) K Limehouse L Lambeth (Kennington) M Southwark N Stoke Newington P Peckham Q Wembley (From 1965) R Blackheath Road S Albany Street T Hammersmith V Wandsworth W Brixton X Harrow Road Y Kentish Town Z Croydon (From 1923) TA Thames TD Thames Division replaces TA (From 1839) 1st WOOLWICH DOCKYARD 2nd PORTSMOUTH DOCKYARD 3rd DEVONPORT DOCKYARD 4th CHATHAM DOCKYARD 5th PEMBROKE DOCKYARD 6th ROSYTHE DOCKYARD nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 13:04

Sue This is all there is: Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 29/03/1864 27761 MILLBANK PC L RECLASSIFY Reclassify means Promotion to a high grade within current Rank L is Lambeth. For more info, you will have to go to/get someone else to go to Kew. It's quite easy to find the info there. nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 13:02

Me again ..... had a vague memory of another Lilley - just found him Robert Lilley - b1864 Gt Chesterford, Essex. 1891 in Lambeth - policeman. OK for another one Nell ? - very grateful, LD PS. Ta for Harrow Rd lookup - it was a bit of a way to Hammersmith, but if needs must he could have turned on the flashing blue lights on his bike / horse - LOL

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 12:24

Laird Harrow Road is part of the A404 and goes from Kensal Town to Paddington. The police station is on the south side, near Elmfield Way, to help you locate it on the map. nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 12:19

Lizzie :-(( No Henry Skinner of the right time to be yours. No Skinners in Brixton called Henry. I don't think this database is complete. Another possibility is that although he was in Brixton, he might have been working for the Surrey police authority or possibly the City of London police. Their records aren't at Kew. nell

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 12:15

Ness - amazing, I'm sure that your man was a witness at my mans wedding !!!!! I cant check the cert today, but will !

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 12:14

Brilliant - ta Nell. Pensioned at 47 ! Wheres the Harrow Road - must check, seems a ways to pedal to Hammersmith ! They did move around didnt they - backwoods essex to Wandsworth, marry in West Ham and then to Hammersmith . Much appreciated, great to fill in a gap.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 6 Mar 2005 12:11

Thank you so much! That's brilliant.

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Mar 2005 12:08

Ness Date Warrant First name Last name Rank Number Station Reason PO Date 26/12/1899 85881 FRANCIS PENSTON PC 425 V JOINED 05/05/1902 85881 FRANCIS PENSTON PC 425 V RESIGNED 04/05/1902 Looks like he didn't stay around to collect his pension! Good job he was a copper in the 1901 census or you'd have missed it! V is Wandsworth. nell