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OOOHH! I'm loosing where I'm up to..... Margaret Mitcheson - re Arrowsmith 1861 lodger 20 Haffron Street, Stockton on Tees apprentice stone mason, he's living in a house with 2 other fellow stones masons apprentices. Now there are lots of people with this name but I believe that this is going to be him in the 1851... the way it's written the son of head isn't his dad, more likely uncle. J Wm Arrowsmith abt 1843 Stockton, Durham, England Grandson Sedgefield Durham View Record Mary Arrowsmith abt 1777 Hurworth, Durham, England Head Sedgefield Durham View Record William Arrowsmith abt 1819 Sedgefield, Durham, England Son Sedgefield Durham Mary is an agricultural labourer and pauper, William is a joiner and John William scholar. You meet his Uncle William again in the 1861, joiner, with young wife 4 Maritime Street, Stockton on Tees Record Mary Arrowsmith abt 1831 Stockton, Durham, England Wife Stockton on Tees Durham View Record William Arrowsmith abt 1819 Sedgfield, Durham, England Head Stockton on Tees Durham View Record Robert Humphers abt 1831 Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England Boarder Stockton on Tees Durham View Record George Oats abt 1832 Kelloe, Durham, England Boarder Stockton on Tees Durham and 1871 Mary Arrowsmith abt 1833 Coxhoe, Durham, England Wife Norton Durham View Record William Arrowsmith abt 1821 Sedgfield, Durham, England Head Norton Durham View Record Henry Picken abt 1847 Coxhoe, Durham, England Lodger Norton Durham At Rose Cottage, Norton. Thinking back to John W's granmother she is still going strong in 1861 - living in an alms house in Sedgefield! She's 84. You're not going to believe this! MARY ANN ARROWSMITH Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 26 NOV 1776 Sedgefield, Durham, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM ARROWSMITH Family Mother: ELIZABETH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000811 1580 - 1812 0091112 Film 6904978 Film P000811 1580 - 1812 0091112 Film NONE P000811 1580 - 1812 0091112 Film NONE Wow! Now when you ask for the 51 does that mean that you already know what became of him? John W Arrowsmith I mean. I think that this is him in 1871 but if it is he quit as a stone mason. Arthur Thos Arrowsmith abt 1870 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Byker Northumberland View Record John Arrowsmith abt 1844 Stockton on Fres Head Byker Northumberland View Record Mary Jane Arrowsmith abt 1846 Newcastle Upon Tyne Wife Byker Northumberland View Record Jos Thos Wills abt 1869 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son Byker Northumberland View Record William Roberts Wills abt 1864 Yarm, Yorkshire, England Son Byker Northumberland He's a furnace man. Happy new year! Julie

Hi again Julie.I am trying to help an 82 year old lady with her family tree and finding it difficult to read what she has written. Could you look on 1901 census for Lincolnshire for a HOLTBY family. Her mother was born 1899 not sure if the name is Beattie. George Shute and Eliza Webster. They married 1901 but dont know if its before or after the census. If you could find these on 1901 and further back. I found John Holtby on 1881 aged 70 so if you would be so kind to find him prior to that it would make an old lady very happy. She is almost totally housse bound so she knows I will at least visit to give her my findings. Thanks Gloria I have now got the HOLTBY family details from all the census so just looking for the Shute and Webster families.

Thank you Julie, you are an absolute star. Now I have Macclesfield for Elizabeth's birth place. I only had Cheshire before. Thank you so much for all the other details. Especially Richard as brother in law so now I can work out who his sister married. Thanks Gloria

hi there julie very kind offer. i am having no luck trying to find a family, i have the address of the graydon family living at 41 edward street halifax on the 1901 census the names--arthur head born 1864 ---emily wife born 1865--- walter son born 1892---ethel daughter born 1894. what i am trying to find out is if there was any other graydons lived there prior to this. my research suggests that there is the parents of arthur graydon. unable to locate them or there names at this address hope you can help.my sincere thanks.

Lorna 1901 Charles is a bricklayers labourer, Joseph Rogers - Harriets grandson is a van guard. Name: Charles Rixon Birth: abt 1879 - Kensington, London, England Civil: Kensington Residence: 1901 - St Clement Notting Dale, London, England Record Charles Rixon abt 1879 Kensington, London, England Son Kensington London View Record Harriet Rixon abt 1837 Pinner, Middlesex, England Wife Kensington London View Record Isabelle Rixon abt 1885 Kensington, London, England Granddaughter Kensington London View Record Joseph Rogers abt 1885 Kensington, London, England Grandson Kensington London 1891 - 'number of rooms occupied if less than 5' = 3 Looks like 15 Totin Street, Kensington Town William H Rixon head 63, scavenger, born Berks Harriet, wife 58, born Middlesex William H, son widow, 33, general labourer, born Middlesex, Harrow? Charles, son, 12, scholar Isabella, grandaughter 6 Joseph, grandson, 6 Hope this helps some, Julie

Betty Boo - I wish it did :~( I loose all mine too. Just haven't cracked how to search Ireland at all. Julie

Margaret - found the rest of them on 1871 - don't know how I missed them! Barbara Fairbairn abt 1821 Scotland Wife Gateshead Durham View Record James Fairbairn abt 1851 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Jessie Fairbairn abt 1862 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record John Fairbairn abt 1853 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Mary J Fairbairn abt 1870 Gateshead, Durham, England Granddaughter Gateshead Durham View Record Paul Fairbairn abt 1816 Scotland Head Gateshead Durham View Record Paulina Fairbairn abt 1857 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record William Fairbairn abt 1866 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham Paul, the head, engine smith, James a blacksmith, John an iron roller. :~) By the way doesn't say whose child the granddaughter is, but she was 4 months old.

Margaret - re Fairbairn Had another look in the 1871 - I think that this might be your man, he's listed as engine fitter so right occupation, right location etc but the date seems wrong - he wouldn't have been fibbing to his young wife do you think? She was 24.... 24 Charles Street Gateshead Elizabeth A Fairbairn abt 1871 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record Mary Fairbairn abt 1847 Shotley Bridge, Durham, England Wife Gateshead Durham View Record Thomas Fairbairn abt 1840 Gateshead, Durham, England Head Gateshead Durham ?

Gloria Lynch How many Reeves are there!!!!!! Luckily he is under Gurr. There's a fascinating family mystery for you. I'm investigating a name change in my tree - unsucessfully I might add worse luck :~) Here we go 1851 - Alfred Gurr abt 1848 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Chart Sutton Kent View Record Chas Gurr abt 1846 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Chart Sutton Kent View Record Daniel Gurr abt 1843 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Chart Sutton Kent View Record Elizth Gurr abt 1808 Cheshire, England Wife Chart Sutton Kent View Record Elizth Gurr abt 1839 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart Sutton Kent View Record Harriet Gurr abt 1841 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart Sutton Kent View Record Henry Gurr abt 1804 Staplehurst, Kent, England Head Chart Sutton Kent View Record Richd Gurr abt 1833 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Chart Sutton Kent The place is Chart Next Sutton Valence in the registration district of Hollingbourn, Kent. Henry is a wagoner, Richard a 'farm servant' and daughter Elizabeth 'at home'. Harriet and Daniel scholars. (The Chas in this census is Charles inlater ones) Following through to 1861 Albert Gurr abt 1854 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Sutton Valence Kent View Record Alfred Gurr abt 1848 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Sutton Valence Kent View Record Charles Gurr abt 1846 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Sutton Valence Kent View Record Elizabeth Gurr abt 1807 Macklesfield, Cheshire, England Wife Sutton Valence Kent View Record Henry Gurr abt 1803 Staplehurst, Kent, England Head Sutton Valence Kent The place looks like Harbour - does that make sense? The men are ag labs. 1871 Alice Gurr abt 1866 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Granddaughter Sutton Valence Kent View Record Elizabeth Gurr abt 1808 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Wife Sutton Valence Kent View Record Harriet Gurr abt 1863 Leeds, Kent, England Granddaughter Sutton Valence Kent View Record Henry Gurr abt 1854 Staplehurst, Kent, England Head Sutton Valence Kent View Record Richard Gurr abt 1833 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Son Sutton Valence Kent nice - Henry and Elizabeth are in their 60's (still Gurr) with their widowed son Richard and 2 granddaughters Harriet and Alice. Next door lived Alfred (23) and his wife Sarah A (21) Marriages Sep 1870 Gurr Alfred Hollingbourn 2a 851 Scan available - click to view 1881 Elizabeth still going strong bless her - she's 73, a widow. Harriet Parkes that's the head is a 'general nurse' , Jane Gurr is a washerwoman, a widow, hte mother of Frederick, an ag lab. Alice Gurr is a domestic servant, frustratingly it doesn't give a relationship to any other Gurr. Record Frederick S. Wm. Barnden abt 1866 Sutton Valence, Kent, England Boarder Sutton Road Biggs Cottages, Sutton Valence, Kent, England View Record Alice Gurr abt 1865 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Boarder Sutton Road Biggs Cottages, Sutton Valence, Kent, England View Record Elizabeth Gurr abt 1808 Mackelsfield, Cheshire, England Boarder Sutton Road Biggs Cottages, Sutton Valence, Kent, England View Record Jane Gurr abt 1846 East Sutton, Kent, England Boarder Sutton Road Biggs Cottages, Sutton Valence, Kent, England View Record Harriet Parkes abt 1814 Boughton Monchelsea, Kent, England Head Sutton Road Biggs Cottages, Sutton Valence, Kent, England I could go on and on with this family! Elizabeth lived to a good age - Deaths Jun 1884 GURR Elizabeth 77 Hollingbourne 2a 409 Interesting thing for you to think about - Richard Gurr, 1861 census - he is listed as brother in law - but unmarried (with parents in 51 unmarried) So Ann his sister. Ann Cheesman abt 1831 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Wife Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record Ann Cheesman abt 1853 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record Ellen Cheesman abt 1855 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record Harriett Cheesman abt 1859 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record Susan Cheesman abt 1850 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Daughter Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record William Cheesman abt 1827 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Head Chart next Sutton Valence Kent View Record Richard Gurr abt 1833 Chart Sutton, Kent, England Brother-in-law Chart next Sutton Valence Kent I could go on - don't want to spoil it for you though. Your bmd's are in the Hollingbourn district.... :~)

Dear Julie Many thanks for all the info on the Patricks of Kettering. Yes it is so sad to see the ages at which some wives were widowed. I have already obtained copies of his service record from the National Archives at Kew. Fascinating records. I didn't have any info for John so thank you for that. It seems I still have a problem locating Dinah in 1861. I know she died in 1869 in Birmingham but cannot pick her up after 1851. Many thanks for all you help A very happy new year to you Christine

Kate - Okay, Bew's in North Yorkshire .... Does Burton Hall ring any bells for you, Gateforth. Not on the list of places but there's a William Bew 1791 with a neice Mary Bew born 1824 in Ryther. (1851 census) This is from 1851 right part of Yorkshire - Eliza Bew abt 1841 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Daughter Thirsk Yorkshire View Record John Bew abt 1795 Bermondsey Street Surrey, London, England Head Thirsk Yorkshire View Record Mary Bew abt 1795 Ingleby; Cross, Yorkshire, England Wife Thirsk Yorkshire View Record Mary Bew abt 1850 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Thirsk Yorkshire Place is given as Norby, Thirsk. Head - agricultural labourer. Don't know where Ryther is in relation to your place names but theres lots of Bew's there: Eleanor Bew abt 1832 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ryther Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Bew abt 1829 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ryther Yorkshire View Record Faith Bew abt 1799 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Head Ryther Yorkshire View Record John Bew abt 1828 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Son Ryther Yorkshire View Record Rachel Bew abt 1838 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ryther Yorkshire View Record Ruth Bew abt 1826 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ryther Yorkshire View Record Joseph Brittain abt 1828 Ryther, Yorkshire, England Servant Ryther Yorkshire View Record Paul Gill abt 1832 Ulleskelf, Yorkshire, England Servant Ryther Yorkshire View Record Mary Ann Mollett abt 1832 Ulleskelf, Yorkshire, England Servant Ryther Yorkshire Again this household is land owning. If either this household or the 1st one at Burton Hall fit with your research message me directly with your email and I will forward the relevant census pages to you. They give details of land holding which are not too clear. Hannah Bew Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Servant Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Ingleby, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Kirby Wiske Ecclesiatical parish: Richmond County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Ann Bew abt 1829 Lund, Yorkshire, England Wife Lund Yorkshire View Record William Bew abt 1827 Yorkshire, England Head Lund Yorkshire Don't know where Lund is.... This William ag lab too. William Bew abt 1808 Naburn, Yorkshire, England Servant Naburn Yorkshire There's an Record Caroline Bew abt 1829 Stone, Staffordshire, England Wife Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew Northumberland View Record Edward Bew abt 1826 Thirsk, Yorkshire, England Head Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew Northumberland View Record Hannah Bew abt 1850 Scotland Daughter Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew Northumberland Again labourer. This is kind of a random list of Bews in North Yorkshire in 1851 I guess.... If any of these fit with anything you know I can follow them up but they don't seem to go with your dates. Have you got William and Ann on a 1841 census or an IGI? Any other family details that might help? Julie

Frances - Not having any luck with Benjamin in the 1851 I'm afraid. Can't see a Benjamin in any location with the right age. I've searched for deaths in 1840 - 51 period (freebmd+rellies) and can't find him in that either. Sorry, not much help I'm afraid. Julie

Christine - William Patricks brother - John Patrick 1840 - 1861 Record John Patrick abt 1840 Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Head Northampton All Saints Northamptonshire View Record Louisa Patrick abt 1840 Northlew, Northamptonshire, England Wife Northampton All Saints Northamptonshire John is a shoe maker. 1871 Louisa Patrick abt 1839 Northamptonshire, England Head All Saints Northamptonshire View Record Sarah A Patrick abt 1865 Northamptonshire, England Daughter All Saints Northamptonshire View Record Thomas Patrick abt 1868 Northamptonshire, England Son All Saints Northamptonshire Poor Louisa - Widowed. Living 1 Court 3 Horsemarket. Job -Boot ? could be polisher? Back to John - possible marriage Marriages Sep 1859 Patrick John Kettering 3b 271 That's the only one that came up for Northamptonshire on freebmd for the period but frustratingly couldn't get it to bring up the other people with that reference number to check if Louisa's name there.

Christine - not forgotten you! On the 1851 Dinah Patrick abt 1816 Norths, Kettering Head Kettering Northamptonshire View Record John Patrick abt 1840 Norths, Kettering Son Kettering Northamptonshire View Record Sarah A Patrick abt 1843 Norths, Kettering Daughter Kettering Northamptonshire View Record William Patrick abt 1837 Norths, Kettering Son Kettering Northamptonshire Looks like Park Slile? Lane... Dinah is widow and a fishmonger. William fishmongers assistant. 1861 - this is a gift because you will probably be able to follow this up with records! :~) William was a private in the 'district foot regiment 49th' at Aldershot, Surrey. No sign in 1871 for obvious reasons when you see 1881- Janette Patrick abt 1851 Gloucestershire, England Wife Paradise St Queens College Side, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record Janette Patrick abt 1874 Mkow Bombay, East Indies Daughter Paradise St Queens College Side, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record Robert C. Patrick abt 1869 Dusa Bombay Fus &, East Indies Son Paradise St Queens College Side, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record William Patrick abt 1837 Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Head Paradise St Queens College Side, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record John J. Skinner abt 1853 Redditch, Worcestershire, England Boarder Paradise St Queens College Side, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England It looks very much like William was a college pastor. The boarder was a medical student. Paradise Street, Birmingham. Bet you'll be able to trace the college.... I will carry on this search later - my husband is evicting me from the computer..... It looks like you have a wonderful colourful history. Fantastic

1851 please. I have a Henry GURR or REEVES c1803 Kent. Not sure which name he goes by but would like to confirm his wifes details. Should be Elizabeth and I think she is born 1808 Cheshire. If you can find anymore details on her it would be a great help. Thanks Gloria

Margaret - Fairbairn's 1851 Barbara Fairbairn abt 1821 Scotland Wife Gateshead Durham View Record Barbara Fairbairn abt 1842 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record Grace Fairbairn abt 1849 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record James Fairbairn abt 1850 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Paul Fairbairn abt 1816 Scotland Head Gateshead Durham View Record Thomas Fairbairn abt 1847 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham Paul, the father looks like blacksmith, living at Park Street. 1861 Barbara Fairbairn abt 1821 Scotland Wife Gateshead Durham View Record Grace Fairbairn abt 1849 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record James Fairbairn abt 1851 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record John Fairbairn abt 1853 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham View Record Paul Fairbairn abt 1816 Scotland Head Gateshead Durham View Record Paulina Fairbairn abt 1857 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter Gateshead Durham View Record Thomas Fairbairn abt 1847 Gateshead, Durham, England Son Gateshead Durham Paul and Thomas were both listed as Blacksmiths on this one. I can't make the address out - looks like 40 Peaneth Street, Gateshead. 1881 Record Barbara Fairbairn abt 1821 Skaterow Elwitham (Sc) Wife 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record David Fairbairn abt 1870 Gateshead, Durham, England Grandson 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record Grace Fairbairn abt 1849 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record Henry Thos. Fairbairn abt 1866 Gateshead, Durham, England Grandson 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record Jessie Fairbairn abt 1862 Gateshead, Durham, England Daughter 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record Paul Fairbairn abt 1816 Cowe, Berwickshire, Scotland Head 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record Thomas Fairbairn abt 1847 Gateshead, Durham, England Son 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England View Record William Fairbairn abt 1866 Gateshead, Durham, England Son 39 Tenneyson St, Gateshead, Durham, England The writing is very hard to make out - looks like Paul blacksmith, Thomas engine fitter, William boiler? Henry grocers apprentice. The other I can't make out. 39 Tennyson Road, Gateshead Hope this helps :~) Julie

Hello Julie Could you look-up 1861 census for: Dinah Patrick born c.1816 at Kettering Northants William Patrick born 1836 at Kettering Northants. Thanks Christine

Hello Julie What superb service Thank you for all of the info re Whtieheads, it has filled in a lot of gaps Regards John

John - have you got this on the 1871? Record Elizth A Glover abt 1849 Manchester, Lancashire, England Sister-in-law Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Gertrude M E Glover abt 1870 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Niece Barnsley Yorkshire View Record John R Whitehead abt 1837 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Martha Whitehead abt 1839 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Mary E Whitehead abt 1866 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Barnsley Yorkshire View Record William F Whitehead abt 1870 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Son Barnsley Yorkshire He's a print compositor there. Barnsley, 19 Rock Street.

JOHN 1861 England Census Recordinfo about John R Whitehead Name: John R Whitehead Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Lodger Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Barnsley Ecclesiatical parish: St Mary Town: Barnsley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England The house is 26 Summer Street, Barnsley. His occupation looks like 'journeyman letter press printer' Have you got the 51? Elizabeth Whitehead abt 1807 Whittle, Lancashire, England Wife Wigan Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Whitehead abt 1832 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan Lancashire View Record Isabella Whitehead abt 1844 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan Lancashire View Record John R Whitehead abt 1836 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son Wigan Lancashire View Record Margaret A Whitehead abt 1838 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan Lancashire View Record Thomas Whitehead abt 1807 Sedburgh, Yorkshire, England Head Wigan Lancashire View Record Thomas Whitehead abt 1840 Wigan, Lancashire, England Son Wigan Lancashire They are living at Millgate Wigan. The father is a bootmaker, Elizabeth a milliner **(sorry cant read that - 2/3 letters V?) John is listed as apprentice. On the 1871 John's father Thomas Whitehead is living in Wigan and still a bootmaker. Living at 14 Harrogate Street. Elizabeth B Whitehead abt 1807 Whittle, Lancashire, England Wife Wigan Lancashire View Record Thomas Whitehead abt 1807 Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England Head Wigan Lancashire Also at that address you have Elizabeth E Whitehead abt 1870 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan Lancashire View Record Margaret Whitehead abt 1871 Wigan, Lancashire, England Daughter Wigan Lancashire View Record Mary Whitehead abt 1838 Mymphfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife Wigan Lancashire View Record Thomas Whitehead abt 1840 Wigan, Lancashire, England Head Wigan Lancashire this Thomas 1840 was a house painter. Hope this is some help to you. Julie No sign of Thomas 1807 or Elizabeth 1807 in the 1861 census - not that I'm bored or anything :~)