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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2023 10:30

Marriage: 13 Apr 1893 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
John Audas - 51, Collier, Widower, 1 Wood St.
Jane Kay - (X), 49, Widow, St. Helens
Groom's Father: George Audas, (deceased)
Bride's Father: Joseph Partington, (deceased)
Witness: John Owen; Martha Lee, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Lund Vicar
Register: Marriages 1882 - 1893, Page 249, Entry 497
Source: LDS Film 1885667

1911 Census For England & Wales
9 Wood St Tyldesley, Tyldesley with Shakerley, Lancashire, England
John Audas Head Married Male 69 1842 Colliery fireman below ground Yorkshire Hull
Jane Audas Wife Married Female 67 1844 - Lancashire Billinge

Name John Audas
Death Date 31 Jul 1917
Death Place Lancashire, England
Probate Date 11 Jan 1918
Probate Registry Liverpool, England
Address: 9, Wood Street
Letters of Administration to Mary Witcut (wife of Thomas Witcut)


Name: Jane Audas
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Leigh, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1914
Inferred Death Place: Lancashire, United Kingdom
Volume: 8c
Page: 358


Marriage: 16 Jun 1888 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Whitcut - (X), 24, Collier, Bachelor, 10 Bank Street
Mary Audas - 22, Spinster, 4 Moss Houses
Groom's Father: John Whitcut, (deceased)
Bride's Father: John Audas, Collier
Witness: John Whitcut; Elizabeth Audas
Married by Banns by: John Lund Vicar
Register: Marriages 1882 - 1893, Page 101, Entry 202
Source: LDS Film 1885667


1911 Census For England & Wales
4 Weston St Tyldesley, Tyldesley with Shakerley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Witcut Head Married Male 47 1864 Coal miner hewer Wolverhampton Staff
Mary Witcut Wife Married Female 44 1867 Home Lancs St Helens
Annie Witcut Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Bolt works turners Lancs Tyldesley
Alice Witcut Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Bolt works turners Lanc Ashton in Makerfield
Thomas Witcut Son Single Male 15 1896 Coal miner labourer Lanc Ashton in Makerfield
Louisa Witcut Daughter Single Female 2 1879 School Lanc Ashton in Makerfield

WITCUT, LOUISE ANDAS
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 165

CORPORAL
T WITCUT
Service Number: 16691
Regiment & Unit/Ship Border Regiment 7th Bn.
Died 09 August 1916
Buried or commemorated at
DERNANCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
Birthplace: Haydock, Lancs
Residence: Tyldesley, Lancs

Carter

Carter Report 5 May 2023 09:02

ErikaH thank you so much. You really have gone above and beyond. I appreciate all your hard work.
Thank you
Linda

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 May 2023 14:34

Name Robert French
Age 50
Residence Place Myton
Death Date 1839
Birth Date 1789
Event Type Burial
Event Date 12 May 1839
Event Place (Original) Hull, Holy Trinity, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Document Type Burials
Page 31
Source Publication Year Range 1839-1842
Reference PE158/82
Affiliate Name East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 May 2023 14:06

Name Sarah Ann French
Gender Female
Birth date; 25 July 1824
Baptism Date 12 Oct 1825
Baptism Place Sculcoates,York,England
Father Robert French..........................Joiner
Mother Maria
FHL Film Number 0919438-440

England, Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital Admissions and Discharges, 1826-1930
Name James French
Admission Age 28
Birth Date abt 1838
Birth Place Hull
Admission Date 15 Feb 1866
Admission Place London, England

Name Cecilia Elizabeth Hall French
Gender Female
Baptism Date 23 Jul 1826
Baptism Place Sculcoates,York,England
Father Robert French..........................Joiner
Mother Maria
FHL Film Number 0919438-440

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Name Elizabeth French
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Age 33
Birth Date 1826
Marriage Date 8 May 1859
Marriage Place Holy Trinity, Hull, York, England
Father Robert French
Spouse Henry Stubbs
FHL Film Number 1702266
Reference ID Item 6 page 64

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 May 2023 13:59

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Duke Street, St Mary, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Nicholas Thomas Male 40 1801 -
Betsy Thomas Female 25 1816 -
Maria French Female 45 1796 Yorkshire, England
Sarah French Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England
James French Male 4 1837 Yorkshire, England
William Siddall Male 30 1811 Yorkshire, England

Carter

Carter Report 1 May 2023 12:51

Thank you everyone for your help. Sorry I haven't been back sooner but husband has come down with covid. He has other health issues as well.

I'm going to read through all your posts and see where it all fits in.

Thank you so much again . Your help is very much appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Apr 2023 12:07

??????

FRENCH, ROBERT 50
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 283

I'm aware that the daughter's marriage cert didn't indicate that he was 'deceased', but that may have been an oversight

The marriage licence is on FMP, and gives his age as 26 (born 1788/9) which fits age at death on the above record

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Apr 2023 11:56

Emma French, baptised at St Andrew, Drypool 31/03/1822, father Robert, occ Joiner (as per marriage cert) and mother Maria

Sibling Mary Ann, baptised 11/06/1820, same church



FRENCH, MARIA 55
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 290

Name Maria French
Gender Female
Death Date abt 1850
Burial Date 30 Jun 1850
Burial Place Drypool, York, England
FHL Film Number 919452


Name Maria Nuttell
Gender Female
Marriage Date 7 Mar 1815
Marriage Place York, England
Spouse Robert French
FHL Film Number 1469736

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Apr 2023 08:57

That death looks likely to be the one who married in 1797,,,,,,,,,

As for the apparent change from engineer to comedian,,,,,,,,,,,,you need the son’s marriage cert to establish whether there is a mistranscription on LanOPC.

EDITED 12.17pm

The image of the cert is on Ancestry - John's father is definitely recorded as being a 'Comedian'
Ellen didn't know her father

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2023 22:32

The death suggested by ErikaH:

AUDAS, JOHN 62
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 185


John Audas
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name John Audas
Gender Male
Death Age 62
Birth Date 1776
Death Date abt 1838
Burial Date 1 Apr 1838
Burial Place St. James'S Church, Parish of Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull
FHL Film Number 1657088
Reference ID VS it4 p17 cn130

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 21:10

ErikaH thank you so much for your help.
I wonder if George did become a comedian ?
It's the 1st time I've come across that occupation

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 17:59

John Audas, Cordwainer, married Elizabeth Booth 06/02/1797 at Holy Trinity, Hull

Speculating that these could possibly be George’s grandparents, in view of the Groom’s occupation

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 17:54

There is a death on freebmd for John Audas in Hull in 1838…….check GRO for his age

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 17:22

Maddie this is brilliant. Thank you so very much. I really appreciate everyones time and effort

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Apr 2023 16:16

????
George Chalmers
Country England
Last name Audas
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Birth year 1822
Record type Bishop's transcripts
Birth date 05 Jun 1822
Register type Baptisms
Baptism year 1822
Register year range 1818-1825
Baptism date 19 Dec 1822
Page 329
Father's first name(s) John
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Baptism place Hull, Holy Trinity
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Yorkshire (East Riding)

John
Country England
Last name Audas
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Name note -
Spouse's last name Credland
Marriage year 1821
Spouse's age -
Marriage date 08 Oct 1821
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Residence Sculcoates, York, England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Marriage place Sculcoates
Subcategory Parish Marriages
County Yorkshire

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:13

ErikaH

You are amazing

Thank You

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 16:10

I searched for ‘John’ in ‘Whiston’………. ;-) ;-)

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:09

ErikaH
thats great.
thank you.
He married in St Helens in 1861

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2023 16:04

John ANDERS is in Parr in 1861…….with family named Cartwright

Labourer in a Coal Mine, born Hull 1842

Transcribed by FMP as married - not accurate. Correction submitted

Carter

Carter Report 29 Apr 2023 16:02

thank you ErikaH
so no use looking for John Audas senior on any census .