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Frank Allan 1890/1891

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Nov 2022 21:58

The marriage cert is essential - even then, if no father is named, you’re no better off. There is also the possibility that Allan wasn’t his surname at birth….

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Nov 2022 21:41

The 1893 Frank, with mmn Warters, died in infancy:

Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
Allan Frank 0 Scarbro' 9d 280

His parents were Adelaide and Thomas, and Frank's not with them in 1901 (of course!)

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Nov 2022 19:12

Could this be his birth? I know the Quarter doesn't match an April birth ( as per 1939 reg) and the year is obviously out from other records.

Showing on freebmd, FMP and Ancestry, but not the GRO site to check mmn - will report

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Allan Frank Allan Scarbro' 9d 365

OR this one which is on the GRO site with mmn Warters
Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
Allan Frank Scarbro' 9d 364

Checking freebmd for births surname Allan in Scarborough against GRO for mmn, between 1885 and 1895, mmn include Newton, Warters/Waters, Seaman/Sedman, Beattie and 1 with no mmn. There looks to be enough gap between any with the same surname for Frank to fit in.

Possibly born elsewhere and moved to Scarborough when v. young and thought that was where born.
or
If he followed his Father into the Army, then family could have moved anywhere

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Nov 2022 07:28

There were several children

Births Dec 1915
ALLAN Frank Jaundrell Warrington 8c 354

Births Jun 1919
Allan George jaundrell Warrington 8c 255

Births Sep 1922
Allan Elizabeth M Jaundrell Warrington 8c 318
Births Mar 1924
Allan Emily M Jaundrell Warrington 8c 339
Births Mar 1926
Allan Annie Jaundrell Warrington 8c 358
Births Dec 1927
Allan Catherine Jaundrell Warrington 8c 298
Births Dec 1931
Allan Marian Jaundrell Warrington
Births Dec 1932
Allan Robert Jaundrell Warrington
Births Sep 1934
Allan Thomas W Jaundrell Warrington
Births Mar 1937
Allan Patricia Jaundrell Warrington


So consistently in the Warrington area

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 27 Oct 2022 22:47

That looks like him too?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Oct 2022 22:01

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View Original Image on Fold3.

Name: Frank Allan
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Record Type: Disability
Birth Date: 1892
Residence Place: Warrington Lancs
Military Service Region: North West, North West
Military Country: England
Discharge Date: 18 Jan 1919
Service Number: 31423
Corps, Regiment or Unit: S' Lancs
Service Branch: Military (Army)
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 3/MA/No.3048
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Frank Allan

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 27 Oct 2022 18:42

That's almost definitely his marriag,thank you.
He's a builders labourer on the 1939 register.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2022 15:31

His death registration matches 1939 register as far as age is concerned, but that would be only 'as known' to the informant. 1921 suggests an 1890 birth

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Oct 2022 15:10

This looks like his marriage:-

First name(s) Frank
County Lancashire
Last name Allan
Country England
Marriage quarter 1
Volume 8C
Marriage year 1915
Volume as transcribed 8C
Registration month -
Page number 303
MarriageFinder™ Frank Allan married one of these people
Elizabeth Jaundrell <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Jaundrell
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Warrington
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England

I can't find a birth for him in Scarborough in 1890 or 1891.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2022 15:02

Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
Allan Frank Jaundrell Warrington 8c 303
Jaundrell Elizabeth Allan Warrington 8c 303

What was his occupation?

EDITED

He was a Soldier.............so no certainty about his origins, and the marriage wasn't CofE, so no way of seeing record online.

You will almost certainly have to purchase a copy of the cert...........to find out whether he gave a father's name

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 27 Oct 2022 14:52

Looking for any info on Frank.1921 census states he was born in Scarborough,Yorkshire & is aged 31,married,& living in Warrington.1939 register gives his DOB as 7th April 1891 & living in Warrington with his wife-Elizabeth,& children..I can't find any birth record.He died in 1947 in Warrington.Can't find him on 1901 or 1911 censuses either.

Any help would be appreciated.