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Mary Ellen is JONES in 1921 - FMP have made a mess of the transcription

There is another child..............Richard Stanley Jones, aged 1year 6 months

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Jones Richard S Allen Pontardawe 11a 2501

???
Deaths Jun 1930 (>99%)
Jones Richard S 10 Pontardawe 11a 922

Son Edmund is not recorded in 1921 with his mother

The poster's mother, Elizabeth, should be on 1939 with at least one closed record, but I can't see any sign under Allen, Jones, or Hickey
Not that her whereabouts has any bearing on her mother's......................

Not with her birth family
1939 Register
Mount View, Ystradgynlais, Ystradgynlais R.D., Breconshire, Wales
Alice Allen 25 May 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 161 1 Head
John Allen 02 Feb 1899 Male Colliery Surface Labourer Single 161 2 Son
William T Allen 22 Aug 1908 Male Colliery Hewer Single 161 3

ALLEN, WILLIAM THOMAS SMITH
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 27

ALLEN, MARY ELLEN SMITH
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 819

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Allen John W. Bromwich 6b 1156
Smith Alice W. Bromwich 6b 1156

Not in Abercrave in 1939

The son's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)
Jones Edmund J Stock Thurrock 4a 2346
Stock Florence E Jones Thurrock 4a 2346

Do you have the 1913 marriage certificate - could you give all details about Mary Ellen and Edmund please

Also do you have full DOB's for them and for Elizabeth - did she marry, who too, where and when

? In 1921 - as Allen

First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Parish Registration district County
Elizabeth Allen 1913 Abercrave, Breconshire, Wales Ystradgynlais Higher Pontardawe Glamorganshire

Elizabeth, Alice, Mary Ellen and 4 others are on this record

Find My Past holds the 1921 census - even if not a member you can search results and then pay to look at the transcript or original version of the census so you'll see full details

Mary Ellen herself -
Mary Ellen Allen 1897 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

also there - Mary Ellen's Mother
Alice Allen 1870 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

her brother -
John Allen 1899 Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

sister
Edith Allen 1905 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

CORPORAL
EDMUND JOHN JONES
Service Number: 6020542
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Suffolk Regiment

1st Bn.

Date of Death
Died 06 June 1944

Age 27 years old

Buried or commemorated at
LA DELIVRANDE WAR CEMETERY, DOUVRES

IV. G. 6.

France

Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Country of Service
United Kingdom
Additional Info
Son of Edmund and Mary Ellen Jones, of Abercrave, Glamorgan; husband of F. E. Jones, of Abercrave.
Personal Inscription
AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN AND IN THE MORNING WE SHALL REMEMBER HIM

Are these the correct 2 births?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
JONES, EDMUND JOHN ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in PONTARDAWE Volume 11A Page 1828

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Allen Elizabeth Allen Pontardawe 11a 2269

For our info - your family?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
18, Turners Hill, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Allen Head Married Male 30 1871 Stone breaker quarry Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Alice Allen Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Mary Ellen Allen Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
John Allen Son - Male 2 1899 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

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1911 Census For England & Wales
5 Gadds Green Oakham Dudley, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alice Allen Head Married Female 40 1871 - Worcester Oldbury
Mary Ellen Allen Daughter - Female 13 1898 None Worcester Oldbury
John Allen Son - Male 12 1899 School Worcester Oldbury
Annie Allen Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Staff Rowley Regis
Edith Allen Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Staff Rowley Regis
William Thomas Allen Son - Male 2 1909 - Staff Rowley Regis


Alice says she has been married 15 years and had 6 children - 1 of whom has died.

I am now aged 87 with not long left and have never been able to find any information as to Mary's whereabouts after she got married. Mary was born 1898 in Rowley Regis Staffordshire and moved to ABERCRAVE SOUTH WALES with her parents she gave birth to my mother at a young age and out of wedlock in 1913, she then married Edmund Jones in 1913 June at Pontypridd (Mary is suddenly now aged 21) and had a second child in 1917, Edmund John JONES, who unfortunately lost his life on D Day .I have no further knowledge of their life after...this date.

It would be nice if someone out there can help me find this information so as to close this chapter of my family tree before I go.