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I wonder if this is Edward in 1911 .............

1911 Census

Name: Edward Cousins
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth

County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 4 Henry Street, Plymouth
Marital Status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Labourer Coal Porter
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 324
Piece: 12984

Edward Cousins 42

Ellen Spriggs 20
James Spriggs 1


Transcript shows Edward and the Spriggs together. They live at the same address but are separate households. Edward has 1 room

Below look to relate...

Chris :)

Burial
County Cornwall
Place Liskeard
Church name St Martin
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1611
Burial date 23 Jul 1909
Person age 77
Burial person forename Joseph Moore
Burial person surname WILTON
Burial person abode Union Infirmary

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Baptism
Day Month 06-Mar
Year 1888
Parish Or Reg District Penzance, St. Paul
Forename Joseph Moore
Surname WILTON
Sex
Father Forename Simon
Mother Forename Annie
Residence Reservoir Court
Father Rank Profession hawker

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/


(what other details are on the 1883 Marriage Cert.?)

thank you do much.....I couldn't do this myself..
I can confirm what you have for Leonard Moore Wilton.
Annie's seems to have her age wrong, or lied, as did her daughter Annie. Family trait?
I'm not so sure about the baptism for Annie Townsend ..saw this Meredith myself, but she SAYS her father was William.

This enquiry came after a family visit to my mum in law..this is her family, so she holds some certificates including the Simon Wilton marriage.
She will be amazed, but not surprised, at the extra child.

The summary was most helpful, it was quite hard to follow, so was needed. Thanks everyone! You worked so hard.

The Joseph Wilton burial looks like Simons father, as Simon lived with him on one census, 1891 or 1901 I forget
and Joseph Moore Wilton baptism is Annie Townsend /Wilton child
Marriage cert details I will ask about.. Annie says she was 21 but she could have lied as she was probably pregnant at the time. Marriage date 20th December 1883.
Her father William labourer. Address or both Pipe Well Street, Callington, Cornwall
Simons age 25.
Simon and his father were both born Callington.
Thanks

Think this may be Edward Thomas Cousins? There is another one born in London at the same time.



England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) EDWARD T
Last name COUSINS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1932
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EDWARD T COUSINS married
Mary E Jaques
Spouse's last name Jaques
District Bristol
District number -
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 57



Cousins Household (4 People) 45 Mortimer Road , Sodbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Edward T Cousins 04 Nov 1902 Male Aero Engine Inspector Married 294 1
Mary E Cousins 24 Aug 1907 Female Domestic Duties Married 294 2




England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) EDWARD THOMAS
Last name COUSINS
Gender Male
Birth day 4
Birth month 11
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1970
District Weston-Super-Mare
County Somerset
Volume 7C
Page 1576

No idea of things!, but as Annie Cousins has Launceston on 1901, saw below...

Chris :)

William Townsend Lodger (Widower) Male 31 1840 - Devon (Stowford) England (Quarryman)
Street Port Lane
Parish North Hill
Registration district Launceston
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2226
Folio 26
Page 12

(need details for William from 1883 Marriage)


24 July 1908 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

FOUND DEAD.
...that early on Thursday morning deceased complained that he did not feel well, but afterwards appeared to be all right. Simon M. Wilton, a fellow lodger, gave deceased a bottle of spirit, and this he drank. Wilton told the jury that he did not know what the bottle he gave deceased contained, and he did not know where he got it from, as he was drunk the night before. It might have been poison for all he knew.
Another lodger said the bottle contained whisky.
Dr. Scrass who made a post mortem examination said he was able to trace acute alcoholic poisoning. At the request of the jury the Coroner severely censured Wilton, and told him he would probably find himself in a serious position if he was not more careful about what he gave people.

(relating to inquest on Joe Clark, a hawker who was found dead at the Jolly Sailor lodging house.)

Interesting Chris! This is that William in 1881.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tilridge Cott, Marystow, Tavistock, Devon, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Townsend Head Widower Male 71 1810 Quarryman (Stone) Stowford, Devon, England
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William Townsend Son Widower Male 42 1839 Quarryman (Stone) Stowford, Devon, England
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Susan A Townsend Grand Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Housekeeper Devon, England
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Bessie J Townsend Grand Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Devon, England


and 1871 minus William. Samsend is Thomazin on the 1841.



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Splats, Milton Abbot, Tavistock, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Tonsend Head - Male 60 1811 - Devon, England
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Susan Tonsend Wife - Female 73 1798 - Devon, England
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Samsend Tonsend Daughter - Female 30 1841 - Devon, England
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Susan Tonsend Granddaughter - Female 5 1866 - Devon, England
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Bessie Tonsend Granddaughter - Female 4 1867 - Devon, England

Thanks Chris, I saw these before, but couldn't put it together. A relative has the baptisms and marriage for Annie to Simon Moore Wilton. I believe "William" her admitted father was labelled "labourer" ..not helpful. So Annie could be Susan A ..do you think, if the districts match all admissions..
We think she was pregnant when marrying, so could have lied about her age, saying 21. Presumably then one didn't need father's permission.??

Looks to be below...

Chris :)

(who are Witnesses on Marriage?)

Birth
TOWNSEND, SUSAN ANN (BRIMMACOM)
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in TAVISTOCK Volume 05B Page 372


Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
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BRIMMACOMBE Elizabeth Tavistock 5b 650
Townsend William Tavistock 5b 650

Have enquirer about witnesses..in the pipeline,

Still awaiting certs. But it has just struck me that Leonard b.1889 knows he was Wilton, and of course stayed with this mother Annie known as Cousins. But he leaves his will to his older sister Elizabeth Jane, whom we imagine was estranged, being left in the workhouse in 1891. But he knew he was Wilton. Someone, perhaps Edward Cousins or Annie herself told him about his older siblings?? perhaps.
Or, did a recruit for the Army have to prove who he was?

Regarding Edward the last son, b. 1902, I have heard from a Genes member, that he married in England to Jaques and had children, so I presume he came back from Australia in?
Do we have the same guy?

Still awaiting certs. But it has just struck me that Leonard b.1889 knows he was Wilton, and of course stayed with this mother Annie known as Cousins. But he leaves his will to his older sister Elizabeth Jane, whom we imagine was estranged, being left in the workhouse in 1891. But he knew he was Wilton. Someone, perhaps Edward Cousins or Annie herself told him about his older siblings?? perhaps.
Or, did a recruit for the Army have to prove who he was?

Regarding Edward the last son, b. 1902, I have heard from a Genes member, that he married in England to Jaques and had children, so I presume he came back from Australia in?
Do we have the same guy?

Answering the question.. Who are the witnesses on Annie's 1883 marriage?
It was at the registry office. And the witnesses were Wilton's, Joseph and Elizabeth .. Shame .. No leads there.

Sylvia found ... Edward in 1911..
I'm wondering if Ellen 20 born Exeter is his first child b. 1892..
..but I can't find a marriage for Ellen to Spriggs, nor a birth for James Spriggs...unless he is James G Cousins born Plymouth JunQ 1909.,,as 1911 seems to say place of birth Plymouth, St. Andrews !!!

Any thoughts please..

I don't know if it was his daughter Ellen in 1911- it seems likely, but I don't see a marriage, and I've no idea why Ellen and her son are listed under Spriggs.

I know that Ellen married Samuel G Warren later in 1911. She married under the name Nellie Cousins.

A school record for her in 1909 gives her birth date as 15th November 1891.

This fits with her on the 1939 register (1 year out):- she's here with her son Alfred

47 Harrowdene Road , Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England

Alf Stan Warren 22 Mar 1913 Male ??? Single
Nellie Warren 15 Nov 1890 Female Unpaid Dometsic Widowed
Daisy (J) Oldman 25 Mar 1909 Female Unpaid Dometsic Married
George Oldman 29 ? 1901 Male Aircraft Clerk Married
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Births Jun 1913
Warren Alfred S (Mother's maiden name: Cousins)
Devonport 5b 581

A tree on Ancestry has a child born to Ellen before her marriage- listed as:

James Gideon Warren
6 April 1909 • Plymouth, Devon, England

The birth was originally listed under Cousins- It was then reregistered (or amended) in 1916 under surname Warren.

Births Jun 1909

COUSINS James G Plymouth 5b Mch/16
Warren James Gideon Plymouth 5b Mch/16

Cousins James G Cousins Plymouth 5b 402
Warren James G Cousins Plymouth 5b 402

Thank you so much Austin,
I didn't think we'd get results. But it certainly makes much sense to me.

I have one further request...

Her sibling Violet May Cousins. Her birth cert was obtained and we have her with the correct parents. She was born Smythen Street, Exeter, 9th June 1900.

The marriage suggested for her above was,
Violet May Wilton to Albert Edward Wheeler 3rd September 1921, St. Paul's, Bedminster, Bristol ..this one admits age 22 and father as Henry Edward Wilton, a deceased soldier. I can't find the father 1911 or this Violet to check her out.
Before, we passed it off as misinformation, as she was orphaned aged 4.

However, we now have a death cert for the Violet May married to Wheeler. She died 25th December 1987. Daughter listed as Audrey May Brassington, Ilchester Crescent, Bedminster. She may have married Arthur Brassington. Again I can't find a suitably aged Audrey that makes sense.

Another genes member sent 1939 register page for this Violet admits birth 6th June 1899.
He also gestimated a baptism he found for April 1898 at Bristol, with entirely different parents.

I'm worried now that we have the wrong marriage for Violet.

Sorry to ask for help again. But nothing makes sense.
G

Would Ellen Cousins still be at school in 1909? Born 1892? Or is that a typo? Sorry.. Can't figure! G

I'm guessing the Spriggs connection is the natural father of James. There are only four Spriggs in 1911 around Ellen's age. George Spriggs is in Hampshire, born Plymouth. Marriage for George Spriggs to Susan Payne b. Chesham 1883.. Marriage is in Chelsea, marQ 1898... Susan is found in Plymouth 1911.. I suspect James father was this married man ..

I'm just eating dinner- i'll take a look at Violet later.

Yes, 1909 was an error- should have been 1899:

National School Admission Registers

First name(s) Nelly
Last name Cousins
Birth year 1891
Birth date 15 Nov 1891
Event year 1899
School name Exeter, Rack Street Central School
Town Exeter
County Devon
Country England
Parent name(s) Edward
Book type Admissions